Disney Axes Lake Nona & Galactic Starcruiser

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Okay, well, from our studios
in Abu Dhabi and Los Angeles, this

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is Green Tag Theme Park and thirty. I'm Philip, He's Scott and Scott.

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It looks like the Disney and DeSantis
saga might not have a happy ending

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after all, because Disney has just
acted its plans for the campus that they

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were going to build over in Orlando. Yeah, and thus not providing how

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many jobs to the state of Florida. Well, several thousand, several thousand.

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Well, it's just kind of moving
them over, so you know,

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but it's bringing them to the state
of Florida, and as a Floridian it's

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like, Okay, that's true,
that's true. Okay, let's set the

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context. I'm going to read the
first few paragraphs here from the New York

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Times article, which gave a nice
context here to get everyone up to speed.

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If you're not haven't been following this
saga. Oh, we forgot our

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little music to put in there.
I'm going to have to come up with

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something in March. Music is that? Yes, Yes, that's it.

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It's it'll keep coming. In March. Disney called Governor Roda Santas of Florida

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anti business for his scorched earth attempt
to tighten oversight of the company seam Park

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resort near Orlando last month when Disney
sued the governor and his allies were what

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it called a targeted campaign of government
retaliation, and company made clear that the

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seventeen billion dollar investment plan in the
area was on the line. Does the

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state want us to invest more,
employ more people and pay taxes or not,

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said Bob Iger during the earnings call, which we covered in a previous

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episode, And of course on Thursday, that was all put to the test

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because Disney Steam Park and Consumer Products
chairman showed that they were not bluffing by

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pulling the plug on the office complex
that was scheduled for construction in Orlando at

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a cost of roughly one billion.
It was heading around one point three ish.

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It would have brought more than two
thousand Disney jobs to the region,

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with one hundred and twenty thousand dollars
as the average salary, according to an

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estimate from the Florida Department at the
Economic Opportunity, which talked about this when

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it was first announced, and just
for further context, in the industry,

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it created quite a stir because most
of those jobs are of course, coming

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from imagineering in California, and you're
basically then asking a lot of creative individuals

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to move from California to Florida if
they want to keep their jobs. And

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that didn't go over well at the
time, and quite a few people had

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already started the process of relocating,
and part of the package was they would

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pay your relocation costs and all that. So, so Disney did clarify that

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they would look into allowing some of
those employees to move back to California and

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also to covering further moving expenses for
them. And of course the mayor j

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jumped on adding that it was unfortunate, but you know, kind of also

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blaming the Santists by saying it was
unfortunate, but what do you expect when

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everything is so difficult for businesses now
in Florida. So and of course the

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Santist's rebuttal has been that, you
know, Disney is suffering and their stock

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prices going down and everything going downhill
for them anyway, so they need to

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reevaluate, which is not correct at
all. Bye bye bye, just our

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last episode. Factually, I'm correct, there are no there are no facts

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to back what DeSantis is saying about
about Disney. I mean, he's just

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because he's saying it doesn't necessarily make
it real. The other thing I think

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is interesting about this move is,
you know, we had this discussion what

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two or three weeks ago or we
said, if Disney really wanted to,

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they could just say by bye Florida, and that would that would sink certainly

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the Orlando area, and it's it
wouldn't sink it. I mean, Universal

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obviously still has a very strong foothold
there and it would be um. But

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just why is why is the governor
of a state so adamantly opposed to a

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major contributor to the tax base continuing
to provide their service to people who are

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coming in and the amount of tourism
that brings in and the amount of people

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it employs. It's it is.
It is baffling. I it is baffling,

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like his reactions baffling Disney. I
actually, I think this is almost

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a little bit like all according to
plan for Disney or or Or would be

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more like convenience in a way,
because it wasn't. Iker was never in

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favor of this whole forcing cast members, forcing imagineers true to relocate basically and

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I do think that. I think
I was actually just having this conversation with

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a friend of mine who's in the
industry previously, where they were asking basically,

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would would you have done that?
Would you have moved? And I'm

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like, you know, it makes
it's very clear because whenever I go to

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Orlando, you can feel the difference. I'm sure Scott knows this, you

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know, because it's similar. You
can feel the energy there, just like

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you can feel it in Abu Dhabi, and you can feel it in these

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areas there. It's like you can't
go anywhere without seeing people running into work

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and contracts and just everyone is doing
something all the time. So there is

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that energy there. Definitely is a
capital of the world, but it starts

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to get difficult when you get into
you know, generally people live in California

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for a reason because if because otherwise
you wouldn't live here because I could tell

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you it's too expensive and there's way
too much traffics. You wouldn't live here

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unless you had a good reason.
And I think that that gets to the

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crux of it is a lot of
the the employees I can't imagine would have

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been happy. And I'm really not
sure what my answer really would have been,

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you know, in that I'm like, I'm not sure, just because

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when you there's also the politics of
this, right moving from California, which

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is very heavy blue, into something's
very heavy red, especially in the context

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of all of this the women's rights, and there's so much craziness, you

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know, so I it seems to
me like a little convenient. It's like,

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oh, well, we can we
you know, I'm not We're not

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sure they really wanted to complete this
move anyway, and they might have been

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facing additional issues with staffing, and
then this kind of comes along, and

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it's a good it's a good Like
Desantist is like almost becoming the true Disney

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villain in this because he's acteen as
a scapegoat for something they might have done

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anyway. That's just my thought.
Well, I think that's I think that

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is very possible, and it's a
very good point. At the same time,

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you know, you just said,
why would you live in California if

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you didn't have a reason to Well, if that reason moved to Florida,

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which is significantly cheaper and significantly less
of a of a of a state tax

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burden on its residence, I could
see that there would be just as many

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people who would say, yeah,
I have no reason to stay here anymore.

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I will now, you know,
follow follow the mouse. And let's

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face it, the world has become
so incredibly small now that you can go

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and live. You know, you
can you can move with your company to

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um to Orlando for two to three
years and then you know, go live

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somewhere else, or you can work
remotely, or you could go and live

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in the Middle East for five months. I mean, all of these things

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are things that just happen now.
So I I understand your argument, and

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I don't I don't discredit it.
I think it's a very it's a very

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interesting counterpoint too to what's going on
here. At the same time, the

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reason I think, and I don't
know this for a fact, but the

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reason I think that they were trying
to gather everyone in Orlando is because it

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is more cost effective for a business. It is more beneficial to the company

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as a whole. I mean,
large corporations don't make choices like this that

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aren't based on some sort of of
financial gain. And it's still I can't

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help but think that it might be. You know, you're right, it

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may be it may be an easy
out for them that is possible. At

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the same time, even if it
wasn't an easy out, I don't think

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the decision would have been any different
at this point because they feel under attack

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in the state of Florida and you
and they are by well by the governor

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at least, And so whether it's
whether it is a whether it is creating

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a scapegoat or not, whether it
is a convenient way out or not,

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I don't know whether the decision would
have been any different at this point.

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Yeah, yeah, I would also
want to add or just point out here

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despite I think maybe just like just
what we both have all all just said,

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looking at Ghantum's situation, we have
done the We we kind officially did

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the same thing that Disney and was
planning to do. You know, we

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actually when they announced their plans,
we did sort of adjust hours, and

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a lot of other firms that I
know as well did the same thing,

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smaller firms, you know, support
auxiliary people. And now we're looking at

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giving up We're just giving up our
lease in California for our California building,

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and we're going to be down to
three employees in California. And all of

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them are remote. And then we
have we're going to keep our office in

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Orlando. We got like when Disney
announced this whole thing, we got a

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new office there. We're going to
keep that office there. And we're up

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to five in Orlando. So I
mean we've we've shifted. And and I

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will say to your point, it
is it is more convenient, you know,

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it's it's just easier. You know, all the work is there,

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all of our clients are there because
everything is easier there. There might be

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designers that still there are still designed
not might be there are still designers in

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in the so Cal region, but
but you know, it's not anywhere you

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can work from it. Yeah,
And and the kind of the density is

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just it's just something else, you
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more density being there in Orlandos.
It's just not it's it's not really comparable.

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So I do wonder to your point
of like, you know it,

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I'm still I'm still like, well, you know, the bulk of the

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industry is very clearly in Orlando in
the US. That's where it is here

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in America. So you know,
I it would almost have made more sense

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to me if they had said,
we're gonna scrap this and we're gonna put

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an office in Abu Dhabi that would
have or in the UAE somewhere, or

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in China or something that would have
almost made more sense because because it's kind

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of undeniable that the the bulk of
the industry is there in Orlandos. So

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I'm not sure. Yeah, it's
And at the same time, you know,

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working as you said, you know, even with Ghantum, you've got

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the majority of your California employees working
remotely. You can work when you work

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remotely, you can work remotely from
just about anywhere. I trust me,

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I've been doing it for the last
five months. I get it. Um.

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You know, not only am I
working my project here, but then

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I come home at the end of
the day and and have conference calls for

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other projects that are coming up.
And I'm actually quite excited to get back

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to seeing in person back in the
States. So um, somebody basically said,

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you know, is there any difference
between opening it opening this this complex

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or this campus in Orlando or Atlanta, or you know, somewhere just across

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the Florida state line where you know, you you have a lot of the

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same you could get actually probably even
more tax benefits because you know, some

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of the some of the smaller southern
cities are looking for some help. Not

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necessarily Atlanta, but some of the
smaller southern municipalities are looking for some help.

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So is it I don't I don't
know what the answer is, but

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I do think I do truly believe
that this is a situation where a state

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where the leaders of the state have
proven that they are aggressively attacking a specific

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company, and their response is well, to heck with you, I'm not

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I'm not going to play this game. I'm gonna take my pieces and go.

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And you know, you've heard me
say before, Disney could very easily

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just pull out and go away.
They can take what you know, I

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know they've established a great foothold.
I know it was um it has taken

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a long time to build the status
that they have there, to continue to

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build the infrastructure that they have there. But if need be, and if

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pushed to, they could leave.
And I don't you know, I don't

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think it's something they want to do. I don't think it's I don't even

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think it's something as as as non
business related as the the basic pissing contest

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over over the the LGBTQ plus rights. Um, I think that is I

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really think that is secondary from a
Disney from a Disney standpoint. Um.

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But but if it if it becomes
nonprofitable or it becomes more of a challenge

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to work in a specific state,
they can take all their assets and go

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somewhere else. Yeah, perhaps Abu
Dhabi or the UAE or or exact or

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wherever. Yeah. Well, I
think my takeaway from this is not really

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much different than every time the thag
has come up. You know, it's

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it's Disney is fighting the good fight. This is a fight that needs to

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happen and they need and I wish
them success. I do think that if

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anyone's gonna we need this line to
be underlined. Where As entertainment companies,

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we are private companies and we have
First Amendment rights and that needs to be

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underlined and protected. And I'm glad
they're either doing it. But from me

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from the Ghana's perspective, we're not
rushing to close our Orlando office. You

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know, We're not like we're we're
really not changing anything right now. We're

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just keeping everything kind of you know, as is, and we're not going

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to reopen our our California office,
you know, We're just not. It's

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it's there's not enough there right right
now, and it's too expensive just for

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us. We're very small, right, We're very small. It's it's just

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not. So we're not doing anything
different, and we're just kind of I'm

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just watching to see how how where
this is going to go. But otherwise

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we're not doing anything different. And
that's that's my takeaway. So and for

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the smaller parks and smaller companies,
I think my takeaway is we often think

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that we'll let somebody else deal with
the politics in our area. Don't.

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Yeah, let let your dollars,
you know, just like Disney's doing.

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Let your dollars speak for the the
environment that you are being offered wherever you're

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working, and get involved in your
you know, your chamber of commerce or

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whatever is in your area, so
that you can be aware of and your

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voice can be heard and you can
speak with your dollars as opposed to just

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speaking with your mouths. So well, I guess Disney is also speaking with

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their dollars, but I'm not sure
what they're saying with this next well,

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which again I hate to say it, but this next story is something that

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we said was most likely going to
happen. It was either going one way

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or the other. Yes we did, Yes we did. Oh gosh,

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Okay, let's get to this.
So Star Wars Galactic Star Cruiser opened March

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first, twenty twenty two, at
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a highly immersive two night experience in
a galaxy far far away. But this

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week, Disney announced that the star
Cruiser will make its final voyage September twenty

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eighth through thirtieth, so that will
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The Star Wars Glactic Star Cruiser is
one of the most creative projects ever

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and has been praised by our guests
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innovation and immersive entertainment, said Disney. Disney went on to say this premium

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boutique experience gave us the opportunity to
try new things on a smaller scale of

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one hundred rooms. As we prepare
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what we've learned to create future experiences
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fans. We are so proud of
all of our cast members and imagineers who

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brought Star Wars Collecting Strukers to life, and look forward to delivering an excellent

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experience for guests during the remaining voyages
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just say off the bat here,
the biggest thing, the thing that drove

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me crazy about this story is how
much shit people are giving Disney for this.

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So first of all, those imagineers
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kudos. They deserves are Disney deserves
kudos for trying this. It was an

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incredible experience. I didn't get to
do it. It actually was way too

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expensive for both Scott and I,
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But we saw, we heard,
and we knew people that worked on it.

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It was phenomenal. It was tremendous. And again here's again, somebody,

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I'm a little soapbox here. You
know, there are only so many

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stand back, stand back. Okay, I got my coffee free for this

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one. I'm ready, Okay,
So there are only we know, there

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are only so many levers you can
pull with theme parks, just like haunts.

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You know, we know that you
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eventually grow into a theme park and
what you your main goal for most of

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your most of the brands out there
is just butts and seats. Like my

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old chef you said I was apprenticed
to. You should say, it's through

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put, it's butts and seats.
How many people can we get to click

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the turnstile then we get into the
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it becomes increasing the spend per guests. And how many times we talked

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about that, We've been talking about
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fit any more people in the park? Then you have to figure out what

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is the max spend per guest?
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then you have to figure out what
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this? Where is the ceiling?
Where is the limit? Nobody has ever

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had to solve that problem. Everybody
else is just sitting back there with the

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tried and trude method of increasing your
shoulder seasons, adding attractions, adding festivals,

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adding ba ba blah blah blah,
everything that we know works. That's

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what everybody else is doing. The
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these problems is Disney, and thank
goodness, they are dealing with it because

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then we just get to stand back
and watch what they do and then just

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copy it and make money. That's
it. It's not I mean, it's

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it's glorious. So Disney deserves praise
for trying this because we knew, like

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somebody had to do it. Somebody
had to try it, somebody has to

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test it. It didn't mean it
wasn't good. It is a test.

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That's what it has always was supposed
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said a hundred times, you can't
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if it actually succeeded or not.
So they had they had to make it

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a premium experience. They had to
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their due diligence to make it incredible. To find out what is the ceiling?

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How much will the Disney fans and
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day? We have to know.
And if you remember they tried that around

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the world thing, there was twenty
four thousand dollars, so loud immediately,

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okay, so these are the signals
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well if twenty four thousand dollars will
sell out, but that's only ex seats

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and I mean it's it's all a
test, so I think this is par

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for the course. I don't think
there's anything wrong here. I think everybody

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should be proud about their contributions.
I think Disney should be congratulated for testing

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it. And what it tells all
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We found it and it's not a
mistake. And you know what, they

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can use that for something else.
They can use it for a regular hotel

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now, and just make it a
boutique hotel, like we have plenty of

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hotel, but there are so many
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like this is. I can't,
I can't in the mainstream media. Also,

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let me just say, New York
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pull in tweets from random vloggers and
putting them into the New York Times and

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saying that, oh, we think
Disney might have mispriced this, and it

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was so clearly no, no,
no, shut up. It was not

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clear that this wasn't this was too
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they wouldn't have done it. Like, we all needed this information and now

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we have it, and we should
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like now we know, now we
know if Universal wants to do a Horror

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Nights experience that's a two night Horror
Nights extravaganza in Vegas, they know,

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Hey, we're probably not gonna be
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night per person. And that's valual
information. Okay, I'm done. Yes,

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I was, so I was steaming
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it's funny because what we had said
very very early on was it was

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either going to be a massive financial
success yea, or rolled out to other

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parks than other other countries. Yeah, it was last. And so it

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the thing that I agree with absolutely
everything Philip has just said. I think

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that it is. It is a
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basically a funded beta testum, which
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was done correctly, you know,
just to echo what Philip said when he

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was echoing what I've said in the
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you can't do you can't test something
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You've got to go in and test
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and what doesn't. Um. You
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at it going was it the price
point. Was it the it was?

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it was too focused on a single
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coming from other places who wanted to
experience a broader spectrum of the Disney ip

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some people say it was because it reminded

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them of a cruise ship. For
the same price, they could have gone

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on a much longer cruise and seen
real things. So it kind of ta

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taps back into it. Is it
more of the the actual reality that we've

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been talking out on the show here? Who knows. But to Philip's point,

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it tested the waters. It found
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feasibility I wouldn't call it breaking that
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is. I again, just like
you, Philip, I applaud them for

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doing it. I applaud them for
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the learnings that they're taking away from
this will be applied for years and years

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to come. What I would caution
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at doing something testing it grandly and
then having it not meet the expectations or

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not be sustainable, either financially or
from a casting standpoint or whatever. My

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caution is, don't get locked into
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it and it didn't work. Look
at it in though, in such a

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way as we tried this, and
we learned this, and this worked,

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and this worked, and this worked, and if we do it again,

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here here are the things we have
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not the failures. That's the most
important takeaway I can give for because,

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let's face it, you know,
they're very, very, very very few

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of us who are going to ever
have the opportunity to work on a project

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of this magnitude with this kind of
of immersiveness and interactivity. Um And and

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who knows Disney may not do it
at this level again. Um But I

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think it's I think it's important to
recognize that no one should ever go well,

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Disney tried it and it didn't work. That's that's not fair, nor

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is it accurate, nor is it
a good way to grow. The best

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way to grow is to you know
you've you've It's it's an old adage you

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learn from your failures, but I
think you also learn from the successes within

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your failures, or you learn from
the things that are not necessarily it's not

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necessarily sustainable in a really good idea. So um, yes, Disney did

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it right. Yes, it was
not sustainable for whatever reason. And yes,

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let's hope that they build based on
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uh, from this attraction slash immersive
hotel experience, the data that they gathered.

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And make no mistake, they definitely
gathered data because that is Disney's way

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is going to be invaluable and their
entertainment across their entire spectrum. You can

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see it. You're going to see
it show up in other places, you

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know, like you said, figuring
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much is too much? All these
things. I mean, they announced the

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community the living communities as well,
and they announced there's going to be entertainment

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in those and I mean they could
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saying this is a waste of money,

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to waste. I mean, there's there's

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there's a lot of ways to use
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could pretty easily see it being converted
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deluxe resort for the properties, and
even at a hunt. I mean,

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you know, if you remove the
immersive nature and just let people stay in

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it. I mean, people already
pay five hundred to a thousand plus a

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night anyway for just regular, regular
deluxe rooms in a non experienced hotel,

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so I could see they could just
scoosh that price point down a tad and

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make it a regular hotel with regular
concierge staff. Or maybe it's just an

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all confierge hotel. It's fine,
there's there's plenty of race recyclists. It

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really reminds me of the similar reaction
to Universal's announcement of doing something horror in

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Las Vegas, because what did we
hear so much? Well, they've already

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tried to year round haunt and trashing
it didn't work, blah blah blah.

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Well that again, this is why
we have to I mean, these are

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all data points for all of us. And yet again that's why they're not

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bringing. That's why Universal is not
bringing a year round on attraction. They

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are bringing a dining kind of cocktail
type of experience because that is what is

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working in other markets. We see
the food we just talked about the food

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trends. We see this working.
So and I'll say all that all of

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that too. I mean, look
at it's just they tested menu options out

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there that people absolutely loved. You
saw guests saying they would go back just

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for the food, or they would
stay on the ship. I mean,

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they got a lot of very positive
feedback. You saw people complaining they would

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never get to eat those things.
They can still make them, like,

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it's not like they lost their kitchens
and they lost their chefs. Like they

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can just move them or put them
into in different experiences. It's just it's

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now I'm gonna if I'm gonna look
into the Crystal Ball, because You're right,

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they will. They will repurpose this
asset somehow somewhere in the future,

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I would guess, And honestly,
in my heart of hearts, I kind

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of hope that they take it,
they take the bones, they strip it

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down, and they superimpose a new
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that they don't make it galactic star
Cruiser light, even though I think there

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is a market for that. I
think some people would love to be able

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to say, well, I didn't
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I did get to stay in the
hotel. I would hope, at least

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in the short term, that they
would completely change it, because there's always

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going to be that perceived cloud of
quote unquote failure over the space and people

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will never be happy with it,
and people who went and enjoyed it before

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will say it doesn't compare, and
people who go now will be like,

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I can't believe people spent so much
money on it. It's just going to

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be negative. It's just going to
be negative for them, at least in

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the short term. Now, assuming
that Disney is going to continue to stay

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in Florida, they can if they
wish, based on the amount of land

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that they own, just sit on
it for a few years. Yeah,

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and let the you know, let
the negativity fade away. Um. There

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are there are properties in the Florida
Resort that have been that sat dormant for

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many, many years before they were
either redeveloped or just allowed to go back

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to natural Florida wildlife. Um,
it's it's interesting. I'm again I'm curious

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to see what happens. But I
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almost hope that they would um that
they would let it, let it rest

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before they before they bring it back. I would hate to see it come

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back as the experience they originally intended, only watered down. But we'll see,

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people. You mentioned that listeners should
be thinking about when they do their tests

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to understand that it doesn't mean that
everything is a failure, just one.

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You know, if a project bill
doesn't mean everything about failures. You know

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what I just kind of talked about
how it's really only disit it has this

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problem or one of these problems of
trying to figure out what's going to work

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because they've maxed out their parks or
whatnot. I mean, do you think

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it's still the best option for other
people to be focusing on the other items

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we talked about increasing their guests they're
spend per guests, and increasing their capacity

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and filling out their season because essentially
this was something that was out of all

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that because they couldn't do that anymore
so they were trying to create a premium

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experience for premium fans. I mean, do you think that is something that

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people should be focused on or just
the old years I've been I've been touting

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premium experiences for premium fans. I
think that is I think that is something

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that theme parks miss out on.
And as I sit here and I look

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out the window of my hotel and
I see the I see Ferrari World outside

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my hotel. One of the premium
experiences there is you can actually hook up

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to a cable and walk on the
roof. It was something that is and

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so cool because I see it happen
every day out my hotel window. Um,

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they found the right price point for
it. It continues to be sustainable,

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so you know, find those things. Is it is it a completely

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immersive experience? Not necessarily. What
it could be for you is taking advantage

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of your assets. So don't think
that there is not a high end market

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out there. Uh, there is, there is, and you can continue

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to find ways to expand and play
into that high end market UM and hopefully

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UM generate some additional revenue for you
know, for you and your parks.

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So keep exploring those. And what
was right for Disney is you know not

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it may not be right for us
even in theory on the on the lower

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levels or smaller parks, but that
does not mean that there is not a

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market out there for high end experiences. That does not mean that there is

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not something UM unique that you can
do to continue to get more in park

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spend or to generate additional revenue outside
of your regular hours. So keep keep

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looking, keep looking UM and continue
to look for us because we're going to

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come back next week because we're done
for this week, and check us out.

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Make sure that you we are on
our We do have the YouTube channel

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now, please make sure you check
us out there when I when I get

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back to the States, I'm hoping
to put together some additional content from here.

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I just haven't had the time to
do it because I've been working UM

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but that will go up on the
on the YouTube channel as well, So

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um on behalf of Philip and myself
until next time. This is Green Tag

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Theme Park in thirty and we will
see you next week.