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Oh, from our studios this week in Los Angeles and Tampa.
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This is Green Tag Theme Park and thirty. I'm Philip
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from Ganta Mighty and Controls, and I'm doing as always
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by my co host Scott Swinson of Scott Swinson Cred Development.
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On Green Tag, we look at the top news each
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week and we pick the stories we think are most
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important to theme park professionals and we discuss them here
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on the show. And this week week kind of, I
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guess we have to discuss United Parks earnings, but we're
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gonna try and get to the new Sphere location as
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well after that, and maybe some talk about Tokyo Disney.
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So first I don't know, So we wait.
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Is it six flags? Tell me it's not six flags.
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We don't have any six flags today.
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This is a six flags free episode, just one. Sorry
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to those of you that listen just for six just
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for six flag stuff. I know everybody everybody does, and
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it's and it's a big news, it's important, but we
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just have to sometimes we just have to look elsewhere, just.
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Gotta take a break. Uh So, actually, you know six
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flags is earning were much better than United Parks earnings.
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Oh, you had to go there.
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Huh okay, you had to go there, great, I had
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to go there, right. So we were asked to cover
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this topic by a few people about the earnings from
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United Parks, and I don't know it it it's to me,
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it's it's kind of like as usual where attendance and
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revenue were down. Losses continue for the first three months
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of twenty twenty six. Commergion at the same period of year,
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like everything was bad. There's all bad news all down
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the line. Everything was bad. And in typical fashion, it's like,
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if we have a Bingo card for twenty twenty six,
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one of them is definitely going to be people blaming weather,
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which they continued to do on this call, and they also.
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Twenty five, twenty four, twenty three it's I think that's
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the free space in the middle of the card.
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It's like here we are. And so what Swanson said specifically,
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he said first quarter results fell short of our expectations,
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primarily do unfavorable weather, including unfavorable weather in San Diego
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and in Florida in January and February and again in
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Florida and Texas during their peak spring break season, and
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a decline in international attendance, and then he went on
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to do some weird math where he said, if more
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people had come to the parks, we would have had
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actually higher attendance. I'm paraphrasing, but it basically said, if
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it weren't for those negative impacts, attendants would have been up.
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And then you're like, right, if if more people had
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gone to the park, attendants would be up. I guess
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that is a true statement.
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Hard to argue, pretty hard to argue with that kind
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of logic. That's that's pretty solid math.
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I just can't what else. So the only there were
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a few bright spots. The only two bright spots I
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saw in everything is that there was an increase in
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park per cap spending which was up about five point
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three percent to forty dollars, which is still low but
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not as low as it was apparently. And then they
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also are seen sales performance, good sales performance with their
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annual passes which are up approximately ten percent during the
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quarter and two percent through April thirtieth. And then we
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get to what they did about it, which this is
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the thing that's causing all the controversy online, right, which
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is they basically they buy they bought back more stock
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because they continue to believe or say that they think
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they're being undervalue, which is so our.
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Attendance was down, our revenue was down, but we're buying
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back more stock because we feel we're undervalued.
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You got it, You got it. See, you could be
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on the board.
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No thanks that. The only reason I'd want to be
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on the board right now is if it had a
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really good golden parachute.
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That's well, that's probably what's going on, so Swanson said directly.
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We continue to strongly believe our stock is materially undervalued
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and as such continue to repurchase shares in the first quarter,
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buying a proximately two point six million shares for nearly
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ninety three million dollars. This action emphasizes the strong cash
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flow generation of this company, our long standing commitment to
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returning excess cash to our shareholders, and our belief that
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our shares are materially undervalued. So sure, they finished everything
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by giving it kind of a list of things I
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had planned for twenty twenty six, which includes the SeaWorld
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San Antonio Baracuda strike, the San Diego New Shark encounter
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that's opening this month. Bush Gardens Tampa will soon open
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the all new line in Hyena Ridge and SeaWorld, Orlando
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is refreshing Exhibition Odyssey, and Williamsburg is opening a revamped
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version of the Verbalton roller coaster.
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So let's just look at this for a hot second.
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This is their list of new things, and half of
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which are refurbished today, the majority of which are refurbished.
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When I saw, when I saw Lion and Hyena Ridge,
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the idea, you know, here's here's a concept. We're going
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to put lions and hyenas in all t treating habitats
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so that they can actually smell each other and have
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that sort of enrichment. And oh, you mean like we
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did when we opened Edge of Africa. God knows how
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many years ago. It's huh, So there's that. Let's take
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a roller coaster that we already have and was the
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bloom was off the rows, So let's create a new
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scene for that. Let's refresh. I love the fact that
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it's just called refresh. Let's refresh Expedition Odyssey, which again
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is not really new. This is I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
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It kills me to say that this is truly polishing
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a turn. I don't understand.
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It to me this list I would have just left
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this list off because this this list when you look
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at it, this list, and I don't know, maybe I'm
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reading between the lines too much, but it basically shows desperation.
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It's like we've got to do something new it and
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it saddens me. I mean again, anybody who's watched the
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show for any length of time knows that I worked
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for Bush for Bush Gardens for twenty some years. Yeah,
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and it so and I've been gone for eleven so
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it just it saddens me that this is the story.
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This is the picture they're painting. You know, our attendance
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is down, our revenue is down, We're buying back stock
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because we feel we're undervalued. And here's our list of
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new things, which the majority of them are actually just
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refurbishing stuff that already exists and calling it new.
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That's right. Yeah, the I'll read his exact quote here
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because it gets a little bit more. He says, as
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a reminder, for twenty twenty six, we have a truly
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great lineup of new rides, shows and attractions, and updated
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events calendar and expanded concert lineup and a new and
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upgraded food in retail locations. All of this is supported
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by a revamped and enhanced marketing plan and strategy. We
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are confident that these planned investments will drive attendants and
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guest spinning across all parks. Despite the headwinds in the
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first quarter, we were encouraged by our forward indicators and
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remain committed to delivering strong financial performance and growth and
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revenue in adjusted EBITDA in twenty twenty six. And then
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he goes on to lists those things as the main items.
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So he did reference I don't know, food and calendar
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and whatever, but I just think that the difference is staggering,
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you know, in terms of even if you're comparing it
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to six Flags or Disney or Universal, all the things
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that he said, I mean, those are not even don't
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even make it into the earnings called right, like the
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like six Flags had gone around and did all of
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the holiday announcements and all the bringing back all these
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shows and all that that didn't even make it into
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the earnings because they were talking about the big things
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that they have planned. And you know, same with this
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is like them saying, well, we're going to put a
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new show out for Christmas, or we're bringing you know whatever.
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It's very it's very thin yeah, you're right. I was
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thinking that too. It's very it's well, it's like there's
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no investment.
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It's and you know that may be the reality is
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that they simply don't have the money to invest or
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figure out where to. I can't figure out where they
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can take money that looks like it makes sense to invest.
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You know. I will say that with Busch Gardens, I
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because I still have quite a few people I know
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who still work there, And what ends up happening is
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my heart goes out to them because what they're doing
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is they're now relying what used to be the oh
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yeah that's nice. You go do your festivals, do your
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Halloween thing, do your Christmas thing? Do you Well, now
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there is you. You can't go to Bush Gardens when
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there's not some sort of festival going on, whether it's
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right summer Night's beer, what's the beer fest. There's a
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beer fest, there's a food and wine fest, there's glory
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at the gardens, which happen and they all overlap now,
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so they're all it's like, here's the festival, and then
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this weekend it's glory at the gardens, and then the
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following weekend it's it is I feel sorry for a
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couple of I feel sorry for a couple of different groups.
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Number one, I feel sorry for, obviously the team that
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I worked on for so many years, and that is
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the people who actually have to put up these different
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events and take them down and change them over and
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because when you overlap them like this, you spend a
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lot of time spinning your wheels. You're using the same
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you're putting lipstick on a pig. It's the same. You know,
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it's the same basic stage, but you put up different
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banners and call it something different and change out your band,
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and you know. But I also feel sorry for the
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marketing team because when you have all of these festivals,
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because again, part of the reason they're doing this is
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because festivals make money for them, and they discovered that
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several years ago. And they have low They really, in
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the grand scheme of things, have low capital investment and
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a relative usually a relatively high return. But I will
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say the one of the core problems if you and
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I'm not saying this because I've experienced it, I will
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be honest. I have not been back to I've been
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to the Sea World parks. Last time I was back
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at the Bush Gardens, Park was for Hollow Scream last year,
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and that was just to run around have a good time.
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But as far as the core product goes, if you
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look it up online, the number one complaint is not
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everything is open. It's there was somebody who was joking.
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They said, you know, in every every two train coaster
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had one train running, and two of those coasters weren't
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open at all, and one of them closed early. And
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you know, and I'm not saying that, you know, they'll
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say it's because of some sort of safety something something
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or something something like that. I want to believe that,
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but I also think it's a strong possibility that it
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could conceivably have something to do with the fact that
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they don't have enough staff, yep to run it. So
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I you know, I I wish, I wish I could
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sit here and say, well, I don't I don't believe
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any of this malarkey. But this is their words, not mine.
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So when they say their revenue is down, when they
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say their attendance is down, and of course you know
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what are they going to say, Well, we've got a new,
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a new robust marketing plan and it will change this
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which is usually the tagline of every single bad earnings report. Yep,
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I I yeah, I don't know how to I don't
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know how. I want so badly to put a happy
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ending on this story, but I don't. I don't see
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what it is. And I'm afraid that if I say
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something that is well, but it's possible that they could
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do this, it sounds insincere because I don't I don't
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see good choices being made. Number one, and I you know,
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maybe it's time. Maybe it's time to write size. Yeah,
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maybe it's time to eighty six everything except the Sea
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World parks. And I say that as a former Bush
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Gardens employee, which just kills me. But maybe that's the
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Maybe that's the way to get things back in line.
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Maybe it's maybe it's time for some major shakeups on
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the corporate level. Maybe that's the way to get it
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back in line. Maybe it's I don't know. I don't know.
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I have no insider information whatsoever, but I just will
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say it is very sad to see reports like this
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for a company that I worked very hard for, was
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very proud to be a part of the team for
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twenty one years, and to see this is disheartening. So
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I'm hoping I'm hoping that they can find a solution.
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I'm hoping that everything they say is right and comes
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to fruition, that their their robust new marketing plan is
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going to fix things, and that all of a sudden
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there won't be bad weather in Florida or Texas or California. Yeah,
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it'll never rain again in all those I I hope,
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I really hope, because I want these I want these
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parks to come back. I want them to be vibrant,
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because I will tell you in their heyday Bush Gardens, Tampa,
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Bush Gardens, Williamsburg worked in both of those parks for
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SeaWorld Orlando, SeaWorld, San Diego, Sea World, Texas. They were
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all really fun, vibrant parks, filled with great entertainment, really
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cool rides. But now it's like, let's let's do let's
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do Verbolton to electric Googloo.
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kills me.
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Yeah. One of the you know strategy, one of the theories
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that's floating around out there, of course, is that they're
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doing a lot of the stock buy backs and his
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pati of selling something, we're selling land doing some sort
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of maneuver of that kind. And I think that's reasonable.
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it's just it's interesting to look at the different strategies here.
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We've talked about all the different park strategies, and I
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think this it's like a little bit of a spectrum, right.
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you balance the seasonal stuff with the big tentpole attractions,
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and it seems like this is the opposite end of that,
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where it's all just there's no really temple attractions. That's
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really all just we're doing these seasonal festivals and we're
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kind of overdoing it. So I think it does show
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that there's a way to overdo seasonal stuff as well.
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Mm hmm, you know, right, Well anyway, uh okay, yeah, let's.
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talk about this, I was like, well, it's the same
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old thing, and I almost don't even consider them a
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theme park company anymore, just because of the uh, the
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ownership structure and really I think what they're trying to do,
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which it really is just a sell or move properties around.
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but it's I think, to.
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more props if they were, you know, diversifying and becoming
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less of a theme park company right right, because clearly
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they're the theme park stuff based on these numbers ain't working.
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Yep, yep. Okay, Well let's go somewhere else that skuy
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has had a experience in, which is the Middle East.
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next Sphere installation and it's going to be going to
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Maral's Yas Island, with construction set to finish by twenty
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twenty nine. It's going to cost one point seven billion
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US dollars, it'll be twenty thousand seat venue, and it's
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going to go right next SeaWorld Abu Dhabi and the Yasmol,
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which for those of you that maybe forgot or weren't
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listening that long, that's where Scott was station. Scott was
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stationed there at SeaWorld Abu Dhabi. He was on the
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opening team there and worked on the dolphin show, and
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so it's going to be so he intimately knows exactly
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where this is going in there. And so I'll read
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here a little bit from the Tourism Ministry in the area.
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They said, Abu Dhabi has always built for the long term,
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and Sir Abu Dhabi is a powerful demonstration of that
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commitment in a region where the appetite for world class
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experiences continues to grow. Our US dollar one point seven
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billion investment in its construction phase since a clear signal
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Abu Dhabi is open, ambitious, and unwavering its direction. This
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project reflects the strength of Abudhabi's inter national partnerships built
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on shared ambition and mutual confidence in what this Emioradi
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present represents as a global destination. Together, we are creating
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a venue that will draw our community, visitors, and creators
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and investors to Yas Island and Abu Dhabi for decades
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to come. So I have thoughts, but I want to
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hear Scott, what do you think of this announcement.
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It's not at all surprising. I'm sorry, I'm looking. I'm
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trying to see exactly where it's going. Because when you
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when you say that, I know I can I can
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get live it this way. I could walk there from
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where I lived in the hotel. You know, I know
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probably you know roughly where it's going. But uh yeah,
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you know, if you think about it, you look at
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you look at Yas Island and say what you want
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about the Middle East. I'm not even going to go
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into that. But if you look at Yes Island, they
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are putting everything, and this was the design of the city.
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They're putting everything on the island, on the tourism island.
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There's also a museum island that is where the Louver
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is and where the Guggenheim is going. So to me,
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this is this makes total sense. I will say there
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was a there's a much smaller version of the sphere,
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significantly smaller, but looks it looks like it had a baby.
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That's that's in Riyad. That's in Saudi Arabia at Boulevard City.
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But this is clearly huge, and I hope they use
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the same way they're using it in Vegas. I hope
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they bring in concerts, which I'm sure they will. I
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hope that they'll be able to fill twenty thousand seats
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because when I was there in twenty three you know,
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the the the tourism hadn't quite tipped so and they
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weren't and they weren't ready for that kind of that
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kind of are those kinds of audiences. I don't whether
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you can hear that or not, but there's a thunderstorm
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going on here in Tampa. But they weren't, they weren't
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ready for those kinds of audiences. So I'm hoping that
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with this expansion, there's two things they really need to
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focus on. And that is one tourism on I'm sorry,
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transportation on the island itself. You know, when I was
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there in twenty three, there were beta testing. They were
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beta testing autonomous buses, autonomous taxi cabs. But they really
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need to get some sort of they need They need
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the the sky Disney Skyliner to get them around the island.
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They need something like that. So that's the first thing
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I would say they need to look at. And the
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second thing they need to look at is training the
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local staff how to handle large crowds because they're not
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ready for it yet. They think they are, but they're
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not ready for it yet. And and that's going to
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be even more important considering that, you know, Disney's just
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around the corner as.
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Well, right in the things I think, I think looking
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at it from a strategic standpoint, because I don't have
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the operational, you know, on the grounds perspective that Scott does.
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But I do agree with the point about the large
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crowds because I witness that, and I've been there a
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few times and witness that where they just haven't had
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the training because they haven't quite had the crowds yet
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to do even train on. But I think from a
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ster treatic standpoint, this is one of those moves that
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is surprising yet inevitable, right. I think when you read
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the headline, your eyebrows go up a little bit and
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then you go, ah, of course, because right now I
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think they're it's a problem, you know in that area.
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You know, Abu Dabi has been trying to pivot over
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to the tourism economy, and with the conflict in Iran,
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the big thing is trying to make it kind of
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you know, they don't want to stop the momentum. I think,
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so you kind of have to reassure all your stakeholders
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that everything is going forward. That's why Disney, i'm sure,
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had that sentence in their earnings letter about Disney Abidabi
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proceeding and of course this now coming out. I think
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they're just trying to manage that expectation to show that
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they are still proceeding. And then you know they're going
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to have to also manage the idea around safety and
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making sure that visitors feel safe when going there, especially
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if the conflict drags out for any longer or any
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of that kind of stuff. So I think that's those things.
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But from a strategic standpoint, I think the timing is
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good because it's you know, it's dripping out these announcements
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to show that stuff is still that area is still
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going to retain its its tourism infrastructure and it's build out.
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And then also strategically it makes sense because this Sphere
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is an indoor venue and it's not a perfect location
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for this. Also that idea that's very much the Middle
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East of the you know, heavy technology, really big presence,
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big technology, all that kind of stuff also fits in
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I think with that region. And I think when Sphere
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was first announced, we talked about it on the show,
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and I originally had thought that it wasn't I kind
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of a little bit was doubting that it was going
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to be a pay for itself because it's so expensive.
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But it has proven to work at least in Vegas,
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and a lot of that is because of the concerts
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and of the immersive entertainment, the kind of the whole
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idea of the wrap around entertainment, you know, completely wrap
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around your entire vision and put the concerts and the
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Wizard of Oz saying, you know, did really well and
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all these things. So I think that they have perfected
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the business model and now they're bringing it already perfected,
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you know, into the Middle East. The problem, of course,
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is exactly what you say, Scott. It's like that is
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working because there is the population and the visitor density
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to pull from, so you can actually sell concerts, you
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can sell a Wizard of Oz performances, so you know,
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from that's the only wrinkle is like is there going
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to be enough people to really sell that? But also
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I don't think it matters. We've talked about this before.
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It doesn't really. I don't think it has to make money.
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You know, the timelines in the US for things to
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make money are are very short. And also just side
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note this obsession we have with quarterly earnings. It's probably
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why you know, the United Parks is doing so bad
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and all these parks are doing so bad. It's because
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we don't have that long term thinking, because we're obsessed
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with every quarter making money in the US. So this
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it's a different paradigm. I think in the Middle East,
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where they're like, we're investing in an entirely new sector
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and we I don't think it has to make if
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there's no one there. If they don't fill up twenty
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thousand seats in the first five years, I don't think
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it's going to matter. I think it's more about I
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mean was.
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And that was the mentality behind Ferrari World and mentality
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behind Warner Brothers World. So that's why I say, if
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this does, I mean, the best thing and the worst
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thing that could happen is that they start to fill
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these twenty thousand seats every night or every day, multiple
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times per day, because there's not there's they just don't
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know how to handle that those kinds of people, or
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they didn't in twenty three I mean, I haven't been
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there in you know, three years, so it's they they
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had challenges dealing with crowds, even small ones, because they
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just simply weren't used to them right, So, and.
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I just looked it up.
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I just looked it up on the map and it, yeah,
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is where it is going, just as on a personal note,
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where it is going is literally if I walked from
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SeaWorld through the mall to get to my hotel where
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I lived, it's right in the middle of that.
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Well, that's good. And also it's good because the whole
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thing with the series that you can see it also,
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and I think it's it's good that you'll be able
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to see stuff at night. Also because it's a night
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society and I just you know, it's so much more
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impactful at night. The sphere is and then you have
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this whole society it's built around this in night. So
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I think missed a lot of sense. So I want
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to wrap up, yep. I want to wrap up with
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one story, which I think is a good counterbalance because
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it is showing how a resort can actually combat the weather,
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like it's not an impossible thing to do, guys. So,
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so Tokyo Disney announced their cool Summer It's called Summer
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cool Off is what it's actually called. And this is
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only a second year they've done this, so they're bringing
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back Summer cool off event for a second year. It
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runs July second through September fourteenth at both Tokyo Disney
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and Tokio Disney C for twenty twenty six. What they've
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done is they partnered actually with a local, really well
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known band called Missus Green Apple, and I from anime
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and from Japanese culture, I know them really well, and
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it's a big it's a big deal. It's a big band.
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And basically they've it's very similar actually to what Universal
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has been doing. So they've got that band and they're
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doing two things at the same time. They're adding water
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literally like everywhere you could, like even in places I
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didn't think you could add water, they're finding a way
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to add water. And then they're making this custom song
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from this popular Japanese band and they're putting it at
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all of these locations. You get to hear it like
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all over the park, and they're having choreography for it.
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party that has the music, has the dancing, that also
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has water to cool people off. And I'm like, this
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is how it should be done. I'm just like it's
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and so to give you an example, you know, I
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think we're familiar with, you know, the Splash Mountain and
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the adding extra water all that, but they're doing more.
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For those that know Gadgets Go Coaster from Disneyland, you
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know the little Go Gadgets Go Coaster, they have one
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there at Tokyo Disney and it's a little like Family Rail.
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So they've basically gone in added water jets to this
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ride and they're just spraying you with water as you're
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going through this. So that's example. They also have a
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water parade where it's like a cavalcade with Bamax and
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he uh just it's just him shooting water at people
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anyone who seems like they're hot. He has a little
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energy meter and he's just spraining people with water. And
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they have they adding they're adding cool down zones, and
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I mean they're adding water to eight rides right and
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they're or in Splash Mountain for example, they're not just
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adding water to the ride so it gets you more wet,
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but they're also adding jets to the outside of the ride,
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so people watching the ride also get wet. So they're
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just literally it's crazy the amount of just putting water everywhere.
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They're putting this fun summer vibe. They're also of course
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they're bringing in summer food and you know a lot
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of ice based things and stuff to cool down. But
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to me, I just think this is so fantastic because
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it does these two things right. It helps mitigate the heat,
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and it also engages the local, the locals. So it's
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literally it's like, yeah.
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I love it. You've you've turned it, You've they've basically
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turned the park into this is the summer park for
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the locals, which I think is super smart and culturally
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and I'm asking Philip, is this getting getting wet like this?
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Is this culturally acceptable?
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Yeah? So that is the thing that I thought was
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really interesting because to me, I think, I'm not sure51200:28:15.400 --> 00:28:17.559
this would work in America because you know, I'm not sure.51300:28:17.559 --> 00:28:19.440
I actually don't know. I mean, we have water parks here,51400:28:19.440 --> 00:28:23.240
We have all this work in the Middle East, right, Yeah,51500:28:23.480 --> 00:28:27.519
so I think you know here they have you know,51600:28:28.400 --> 00:28:32.039
Japan has done something like this before, and especially Universal51700:28:32.519 --> 00:28:35.880
has done you know, water stuff before, so I think51800:28:35.880 --> 00:28:39.480
it's not unheard of. So I do think from what51900:28:39.519 --> 00:28:43.039
I can tell, yes, it does work, and it's usually52000:28:43.119 --> 00:28:45.400
where the kids or the teenagers are the ones that52100:28:45.400 --> 00:28:47.359
are you know, and they've done it in a way52200:28:47.400 --> 00:28:50.000
where they've almost set up like splash zones so you52300:28:50.039 --> 00:28:52.400
can still stay dry. It's not like you're going to52400:28:52.480 --> 00:28:55.279
be surprised wet, like you know, they're they basically have52500:28:55.440 --> 00:28:58.640
partitioned it where they've kind of just made splash zones52600:28:58.680 --> 00:29:01.319
throughout the entire resont. And I think that's probably a52700:29:01.359 --> 00:29:02.839
smart way to do it because it all laws people52800:29:02.880 --> 00:29:05.400
to opt in, so if you're not, if not comfortable52900:29:05.440 --> 00:29:07.960
gain wet, you can do that. But I think then53000:29:08.160 --> 00:29:10.720
the kids and the people that are and also it's53100:29:10.759 --> 00:29:13.039
just different. In Japan. It's very hot during the summers53200:29:13.079 --> 00:29:16.680
and they use less AC. Is similar to China, where53300:29:16.680 --> 00:29:19.359
it's like, you know, people have found other ways to53400:29:19.359 --> 00:29:22.440
stay cool because they don't use as much energy like53500:29:22.519 --> 00:29:24.240
in Europe. You know, we use a lot of AC53600:29:24.720 --> 00:29:25.160
where we are.53700:29:25.240 --> 00:29:27.160
But yeah, well, and the reason I ask is because53800:29:27.200 --> 00:29:29.519
something like this in since we just came out of53900:29:29.720 --> 00:29:33.839
a story about the Ue. Right in the Ue, traditional54000:29:33.880 --> 00:29:36.480
garb does not look good when it gets wet, and54100:29:36.519 --> 00:29:39.920
therefore people work very hard to to not get wet,54200:29:39.960 --> 00:29:43.839
which is why, as you mentioned, they're nocturnal society there54300:29:44.240 --> 00:29:46.759
and they don't you know, they don't start until the54400:29:46.759 --> 00:29:51.000
sun goes down, and so yeah, it's that's I just54500:29:51.000 --> 00:29:52.599
want to make sure. I just want to ask because54600:29:52.640 --> 00:29:55.279
it was a That's the thing that I think when54700:29:55.319 --> 00:29:56.599
we get into a globe, more and more of a54800:29:56.640 --> 00:29:58.519
global market, we have to kind of go, is this54900:29:58.559 --> 00:29:59.400
going to work culturally?55000:29:59.640 --> 00:30:01.359
Yeah? Opt in?55100:30:01.440 --> 00:30:03.359
And it sounds like it they are. The other thing55200:30:03.359 --> 00:30:06.119
that I think is fun about this too, is if55300:30:06.160 --> 00:30:08.599
you don't want to get wet, I'm hoping they've set55400:30:08.599 --> 00:30:10.400
it up so that you can watch other people get wet,55500:30:10.680 --> 00:30:13.400
because nothing makes people laugh more than to see a55600:30:13.440 --> 00:30:16.200
five year old get soaked and start to giggle, you know.55700:30:17.160 --> 00:30:19.119
So yeah, I think especially on the parade route, you know,55800:30:19.160 --> 00:30:21.599
you can you can stand outside of the wet zone55900:30:21.599 --> 00:30:23.920
based on the little parade route, and then people in56000:30:23.960 --> 00:30:26.000
the route you know, get sprayed and ba Max is56100:30:26.039 --> 00:30:26.440
coming through.56200:30:26.559 --> 00:30:30.279
So it's really can't get angry at baby.56300:30:30.079 --> 00:30:32.279
That's right, that's right, And it's such a It's also56400:30:32.400 --> 00:30:36.079
just it's such a good play to the locals because56500:30:36.079 --> 00:30:39.119
it involves local ip and also shows that they're trying56600:30:39.119 --> 00:30:41.640
to mitigate the heat so that, you know, to encourage56700:30:41.680 --> 00:30:43.279
local people to visit. And what have we been talking56800:30:43.279 --> 00:30:45.759
about is lean local. That's all we've been saying. Right56900:30:45.799 --> 00:30:47.240
now with all these challenges.57000:30:47.079 --> 00:30:50.920
Yep, yep, yep, well we're gonna we're gonna lean to57100:30:51.119 --> 00:30:54.279
not doing the show anymore because we're done, not anymore.57200:30:54.319 --> 00:30:55.799
We'll do it next week. We're done for the week.57300:30:55.839 --> 00:30:59.519
How's that that was a really bad transition anyway. Uh, guys,57400:30:59.519 --> 00:31:01.279
once again, and I say this every week and I57500:31:01.319 --> 00:31:03.039
really do mean it. I'm very sincere when I say57600:31:03.039 --> 00:31:04.880
thank you so much for listening. I love it when57700:31:04.920 --> 00:31:06.759
you guys comment. I love it when you guys come57800:31:06.799 --> 00:31:08.640
up to me and talk to me at trade shows57900:31:08.680 --> 00:31:10.759
and if you see me out and about, and I58000:31:10.799 --> 00:31:13.519
know Philip does too, so please continue to do that.58100:31:13.759 --> 00:31:16.880
We love to hear your comments. We love the fact58200:31:16.920 --> 00:31:19.640
that you feel this is viable for you, that we58300:31:19.680 --> 00:31:23.200
are raising questions and sharing our insight and hopefully it58400:31:23.200 --> 00:31:25.640
will continue to make this industry better in the future.58500:31:25.839 --> 00:31:28.359
On behalf of Philipernendez with gantim Lighting and Control of58600:31:28.359 --> 00:31:31.119
Myself Scott Swinson with Scott Swinson Creative Development. This is58700:31:31.160 --> 00:31:33.200
Green Tag Theme Park in thirty and we'll see you58800:31:33.240 --> 00:31:33.640
next week,
