April 27, 2026

Comcast Q1: Universal Parks Up 24%, Asia Slowing

Comcast's Q1 earnings call delivered good news almost across the board, and we break down what it means for the theme parks division.

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Universal's theme park revenue was up 24%, driven mostly by Epic Universe doing exactly what it was supposed to do: increasing per-cap spending and length of stay across the entire Orlando resort.
The one cloud on the horizon is Asia. Universal called out softening attendance in Osaka and Beijing, with China-related inbound travel pressure hitting Japan and a tougher macro environment in China. We dig into Universal Cool Japan, the 10-year-old programming slate that lets USJ rapidly overlay popular IPs like the upcoming Frieren walkthrough, and why leaning local is the right answer when international demand shrinks. Then we compare that nimble seasonal model to Universal Hollywood's FanFest Nights, the hard-ticket spring version of HHN that's leaning heavily on existing daytime IPs in year two, with One Piece and Sailor Moon doing the real work of pulling in new fans.
We close on the bigger corporate picture. Theme parks are still only 7% of Comcast, and with broadband losses improving for the first time since 2020 and Peacock approaching profitability, the parks division is being treated as one of six growth drivers funding its own reinvestment rather than getting a blank check. Plus, the Iran conflict and oil prices haven't yet shown up in domestic park demand, but Comcast left the door open for that to change in Q2 and Q3.
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Okay, from our studios this week in Los Angeles and Tampa.

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This is Green Tagged Theme Park in thirty. I'm Philip

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from Gantum Lighting and Controls. I'm joined as always by

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my delightful co host Scott Swinson of Scott Swinson CRID Development.

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On Green tag we look at the top news each

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week and we explain why it matters to business professionals

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in the theme entertainment and themed a park space. And

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this week we'll we're going to talk about the Comcast

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earnings call some of the takeaways for the Theme Parks

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division from that.

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Wait, no, six legs, what the heck?

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You know what? We're going to get to six lives?

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I want to compare. We are finally getting comments on

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the YouTube though, asking why we don't talk about other things,

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and so I'm glad we've finally it's finally moved into

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the opposite direction.

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There we go. All right, sorry, Comcast, let's talk about Comcast, Philip,

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because you know you've done a lot of work on this.

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So the Comcast are names. I did listen to the

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call and notated and I wrote a few articles about it.

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And if I'm going to try and boil this down.

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It's really good news for comcasts almost across the board.

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Like you'd be hard for you to point to anything

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that's that's that too crazy, except maybe some softening demand

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in Asia for the theme park only division. That's the

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only like storm cloud on the horizon. But I think

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the biggest story about this is of course that they

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are really stemming their losses in broadband, So their Bronz

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band losses are like sharply declining because they're starting to

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turn that revenue segment around, and they're saying that the

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Peacock could be profitable by next quarter. So the two

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huge chunks of their business they're the broadband turning around

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is enormous for them, and that and then of course

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in the theme parks division, theme parks park revenue is

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up twenty four percent twenty four percent, and it's all

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not all, but it's mostly driven by Epic, right, And

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so what they talked about was the whole theory that

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they put forth in the beginning, and you and I

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talked about how it hopefully it works, is that theory

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where adding Epic could actually increase spending resort wide because

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it would encourage people to stay for the whole time

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and to come for Universal only instead of Universal and Disney,

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and it would make it into a week long vacation

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and and all this stuff. And it seems like that's

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working because they said revenue was up at all the

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areas as a direct result, you know, of Epic.

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So yeah, that's that's been something that that Universal has

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been talking about for many, many years. And the only

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reason I know that is back in the day, you know,

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they were they were saying how their goal, their goal

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was to be not the day trip, but the reason

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to come to Orlando. That was that was their goal.

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And they felt that they had to get a certain

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level of of of critical mass, which is true, and

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they had to get they had to have enough for

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people to do so that when they came they could

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have their full week filled up by nothing but Universal.

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And I think that Epic has finally tipped that over

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the top. And you know, to hear that that it's

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now at a twenty four percent, twenty four percent revenue

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increase that's due mostly to Epic. That's that's a good sign.

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So they finally they finally hit That's always been their goal.

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That's always been their goal as long as I've known

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people at Universal that has been their goal. Yep.

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They on the call, they said that Epic is expanding

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the overall guest experience and helping to position Universal Orlando

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as a true week long destination. They also added how

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they do have investments plan. They talked about the Fast

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and Furious Hollywood Drift that's opening up in Hollywood. They

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also talked about the upcoming Universal Kids Park that's coming

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in Frisco, Texas, and of course they mentioned that the

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UK Park is progressing through the final planning approvals on site.

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And they also did mention in Japan, which we can

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talk about with Asia. But they talked about the Pokemon

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experiences that will dey view at some point, and that's

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something that they announced a while ago at the beginning

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of the year as part of Universal Cool Japan. So

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Universal Cool Japan is this program they've had for fifteen

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or ten ten years. It started in twenty fifteen, so

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about ten or eleven years, and it's this it's this Basically,

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it's a programming slate that they do every year, but

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it is drawn from Japan created ip and then they

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bring it into Universal, so it's it's like a you know,

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highlighting local work and type of thing, and so they

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in January they mentioned how they were going to do

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an expanded Pokemon experience where they didn't give any details,

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but he did mention it on this call again, and

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so that's interesting. It's good. It's good because it's like, well,

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it must be a big thing then, or you know

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it's coming down the pipeline because he mentioned it in

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terms of the pipeline. But I think it also goes

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back to the softening Asian demand type thing where they are.

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In my view, I think that the way to combat

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the softening demand in those markets is probably going to

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be engaging with your locals. And of course Pokemon is

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a huge thing in Japan, so I think he's nodding

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towards that that he's kind of nodding without giving too deep,

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too many details, but he's nodding at how they are

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investing in things the locals would want to go to

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in Asia.

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Right right now, that makes total sense. I mean, it

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kind of goes back to the discussion we had about

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six Flags bringing bringing back the park presidents who you know,

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so that each park has an understanding of their local demographic,

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you know, people people there are certain in Japan people

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are very excited about seeing Japanese homegrown product and content,

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and so yeah, that makes it makes total sense. I

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think it's very very wise. So I'm curious. I'm curious

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to see, you know, of course, being here in Florida,

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I'm curious to see that how the already announced expansion

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to EPIC are going to impact things, because you know, anecdotally,

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there's a lot of people who are still feeling as

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though EPIC is not a full not a full day,

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there's not enough there. And again people have been saying

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this since three years before it opened. So but again

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that's what we're seeing here is that really doesn't matter

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because if people are coming and staying on Universal property,

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they'll do maybe you know, they may have planned to

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do a full day at EPIC and decide I've had

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enough of the sun. I'm going to go back to

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the pool, and then tomorrow instead of going back to EPIC,

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I'm going to go to islands or studios.

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So that was a big takeaway for me, is that

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concept I think in we're insiders, and so we I

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think sometimes we can't see the forest or the trees

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because our whole world is what these parks are doing,

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because it's our literally our livelihood, quite literally, and everybody

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that we know works in these experiences, and so we

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are we are dissecting, you know, the shape of the

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tree and and where the trash cans are, and I

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mean and the theming of this and the storyline of

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that and it, so we're all in here. I think

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that a big takeaway from me was it kind of

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doesn't matter what any of us think or you know,

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objectively speaking, some of the online reviews for Epic have

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not been great, and even I on the show was

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kind of pooh pooing it earlier because I went during

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summer and there was no shade, and you know, I

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had this whole thing about it. But it doesn't matter

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because it's doing what it's supposed to be doing, and

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it's doing it really, really well. It's increasing per cap

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it's increasing length of stay, it's it's generally giving making

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everything more positive. Basically, like the like the guest feedback

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about the whole trip, trips on the average have been increasing,

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So it's doing It's just I mean, that's literally it's

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just to do all of those things.

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It's the it's the it's the straw that broke the

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camel's back when people are trying to make a pocision

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for where to go, and now they want to go there.

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They want to go to Universal properties and stay on

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Universal property or in one of the Universal hotels. And

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even though you know, even though Epic is kind of

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in the suburbs of Universal Property, there is still there

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are still connections and easy ways to get there. And

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so it's yeah, it's it's become the shiny toy that

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has made all of Universal Parks or all the Universal

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parks in Florida more appealing, right, so that everybody's talking about.

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Well speaking of that or kind of the idea of

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travel to it. So he was. They were, of course,

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they were asked about how the Iran conflict was going

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to impact demand and at that showing up or not.

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It's just important to note that this call was for

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the first quarter, which ended on March thirty first, right,

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so there wasn't really they haven't had really the numbers yet,

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they don't have they're not disclosing numbers yet. And what

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they did say, I think the most telling thing they

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said is that inbound international travel to the US parks

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is something that has not ever gotten back to level

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we saw pre COVID, which I know I've heard that before,

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but it was it's kind of startling to keep hearing

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that brought back up, and he said inside the US,

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domestic to domestic, we haven't yet seen any significant impact

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in the parks business caused by higher oil. But I

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think that does not mean that it may not happen,

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depending on the duration of the effect on price of gas,

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airline tickets, and so forth. And they so they've mentioned

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it twice actually about there where we could see it later.

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It just really depends on the time that prices elevated.

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So they did mention it twice, but they did try

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to moderate that a little bit by pointing out that

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they're really excited about some of the big events that

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are coming up, like the Olympics, the NFL Sunday, the

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Super Bowl, and say said, as we look forward to

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LA we've got tremendous enthusiasm and excitement for how that

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could keep us the ecosystem very robust. We have a

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good roadmap ahead of us. So they acknowledge that this

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could be showing up later, but they did try and

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kind of you know, eating it out by being like,

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we have reason to be excited because there's big events

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that we're planning for.

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Well, once again, I think we have to take off

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our insider hat and put on our tourist hat and say, yeah,

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we've had this book for two years. We're not going

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to cancel it now just because it's going to cost

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us a little bit more. Where you're going to see

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where I think you're going to see. The impact is

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even further down the road. People looking at now trying

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to plan for two years from now, going wow, well,

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if it stays, you know, if the oil price is

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stay like this, if all of the transportation costs are

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going to be this high, gosh, maybe we better look

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at something closer to home. You know, because people who

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travel to go to either Disney or Universal, they don't

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in most cases, they don't just pick up and say, hey,

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we're going to go tomorrow. They plan it for you know,

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at least a few months, if not a year or

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two out. It's a big purchase, basically a big purchase.

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And it's you know, I think back to I think

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back to when I was a kid living in Illinois,

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and you know, the first time we went to well

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Disney World WARLD was just the Magic Kingdom and two

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hotels back then. But when we first went to that,

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we started planning, you know, six months out, So no

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matter what happened between the time that we started planning

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and the time we were scheduled to go, it would

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have taken some rather significant changes to happen, and not

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just to raise in the price of oil to get

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us to cancel the trip. So that makes sense to

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me that there's not been a a domestic you know,

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drop off because of oil prices, because again, things have

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been changing so quickly and these are the kinds of

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trips that you planned quite a ways out.

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softening in Beijing where you're talking about this, how guests

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are choosing to go to trips. I think it could

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be a little bit different internationally and how they make

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the calculation for going to trips or not. What they

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said is that they're seeing a softening in e Beijing.

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impact from China related inbound travel trends, which is putting

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pressure on the tendons. And in Beijing we're navigating a

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more challenging macroeconomic environment, which is to.

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Find that for me, because that's just to me, that's

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a bunch of a bunch of malarchy that is thrown

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out there to confuse people who don't really who they

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want to be confused. So help me understand that.

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So I will. Okay, that's I'm glad you asked me.

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So I'm we're going to put a little disclaimer where

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this is my interpretation.

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Okay, I think that's I think that's buzzword bingo. I

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think that's a lot of here's something that makes me

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sound really intelligent, like I know what I'm doing right, so,

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but I'm not really able to tell you the truth.

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That's what it sounds like to me.

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Numbers in Asia are not good and they're not getting better,

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and there's a lot of reasons for that, but part

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of it is the Iron conflict, because the the energy

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costs are much hitting there, much more so. When they

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say challenging macroeconomic environment in Beijing, that's what that's that's

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referring to. It's referring to they're not exporting jet fuel anymore.

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That that you know that the prices are much higher.

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That then there's the other side of it, where China

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was quite deliberately discouraging people to go to Japan because

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they're angry at Japan because Japan was kind of putting

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up some pro Taiwan independence sentiment and so China got

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really angry about that. And so China has been actively

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discouraging their their citizens from traveling to Japan, and so

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they're a lot closer. Right, so that that market of

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China inbound travel into Japan has been shrinking, and now

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it's compounded because you already have the government being like, no,

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don't lead. But then also now the flight costs are

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you think flights are expensive here, like you think they're

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expensive here, you should look at those and so I

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think that that's plus you get the other thing where

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it's wealth distribution. You know, it's still not yes, it's

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cheaper to visit Japan, but also people a lot of

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the families in trying to make less money than US families. Right,

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So you got all these you know, factors. But that's

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what it is. That's kind and I think it's impossible

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for them to say that on a call, like you

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can't like that's too you know, but that's how I

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see is what's going on there is there's that, and

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so again I'm putting words into their mouth, but I

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think that you and I have talked about this because

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it's the same thing we're talking about with the regional

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parks here. How do you combat it when you're when

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you it's like, I think, a good way think of

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it is like Canadian traffic to some of our stuff here, right,

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So many markets used to get huge Canadian traffic. That's

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sort of what it's like where you get China going

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into these places, and so they're like, we lost all

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of that, So what do we do? You focus on

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the locals, and you focus on value. We've talked about that,

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and I I think that's what they're trying to do

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in Osaka. And I think they're hinting that it's not

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going to work in Beijing. And that's why they're saying

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challenging macroeconomic because I got it, because it's not it's hard.

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It's hard right now in Beijing, so that's going to

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be hard. But I think in Osaka you saw them

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launch the partnership with freer in which I wrote an

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article about that too. But basically it's opening up next month,

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and it's a walkthrough experience that seemed to freer In,

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which is a really popular anime and manga series. You know,

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over thirty million copies of the novel sold and then

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the anime just finished season two and it is the

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most highly rated anime on my Anime List, which tracks

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all anime, and it's it's an incredible story. I watch it. Also,

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it really fits in well with the theme of the

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twenty fifth anniversary, which is Discovering You, because the whole

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story about freer In is about self discovery. So it's literally,

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it's quite literally thematically very linked. They are making a

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walk through experience, they're making a restaurant, they're doing right overlays,

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so they're and this is what they're doing.

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Japanese content to to to re encourage or or reinvigorate

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the local Japanese market.

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And they're able to do it quickly. And that's the

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thing that we struggle with here in the US, where

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they're able to capture the zeitgeist of the moment because

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fe're in just wrapped like so they're going to launch

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it in May, and season two just finish finished airing

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last month, right, so it's a quick quick turnaround where

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they can bring in the characters and bring in the

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content and overlay it. And that's probably just because of

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their unique position in the market where they can they

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have relationships.

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I would also guess, and maybe I'm wrong here, but

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I would also guess because I've I've actually made this

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comment to my friends who produce film and and games.

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Stop trying to make film and games, start trying to

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make a brand. So my guess is they already had

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plans as to how can we make this a pop

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up experience or a walkthrough experience that was all built

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in and if you're smart, that's what you're doing. That

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was all built into the original plan, so you didn't

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have to really even wait for it to wrap. You

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already had, like we've talked about so many times, have

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parallel plans in place, and so that way the moment

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it hits or or if you need to promote it

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some more, if it doesn't hit, then you can turn

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to these these other ways of experiencing the same content.

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You know, it's it makes it makes It makes so

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much sense to me.

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It makes a lot of sensell And that's the point

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is I think that it makes so much sense. It's

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like to bring six flags back in right. We keep

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talking about it's not necessarily rocket science, it's just doing it.

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And I think that that's what the Universe USJA does

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well because they've been doing this program for ten years

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and every year. Then it's like you're saying, they already know.

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They haven't planned in their operations they're going to do something.

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Maybe the exact IYEP or the exact script will change

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up to the last minute, but the base basic outlines

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are there so that it allows them to prepare for it.

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And I think that that's kind of what you're saying.

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It's like they knew they were going to do something.

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And I would venture to say that they've got they've

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got preliminary contracts with multiple anime uh anime ey ps

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that you know, and they're just they're just gonna look

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at and go, Okay, whichever one hits this, whatever, their

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their margin of success is, whatever one hits uh this, yeah,

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benchmark first, that's gonna be the one that we're gonna

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go with. You know, they're again parallel planning. Parallel planner.

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It's not it's not just for disasters anymore.

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Yes, yes, or or everything is a disaster, so you

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kind of well, yeah, uh, but yeah, it's a I

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think frear In is a lates example, but they've been

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doing this thing every few months, you know, as part

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of the universal Cool Japan, because the Cool Japan basically

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runs like January through end of summer, you know, before fall,

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and so it kind of gives them this nice little

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frame that they can just kind of insert different activations,

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but it brings encourage people to come back, and especially

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if you're a if you're in fan, it gives you

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justin that's the other thing to talk about, that critical mass.

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It gives you just enough, right, because it's not just

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one thing. There's the walkthrough, which is original content part

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of the story. That's great, it's themed to the anime.

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I've read ahole article that it's really cool. But there's

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also the restaurant, which is an overlay, but there's special

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dishes and each dish is themed into the things that

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the characters love to eat in the series, so it

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really is well thought out. And then there's a ride

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overlay with custom audio recorded by the actors and they

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put that in one of the rides. And then there's

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merch and there's Chu RoHS, so you have enough.

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Then there's merch, and there's churros. I think that that

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would be the name of like how to book on

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on overlays. Then there's merch, then there's churros.

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We should write that book.

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There you go, we'll do that. So so let me

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ask the Philip, because I know you've I know you've

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experienced this. This sounds parallel to what's going on at

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Universal California with fan Fast Nights. How do those how

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do these two compare? I mean, are they That was

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a really good segway scott O. Congrat Thank you, Philip.

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I do my You know, even a blind hog will

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find an acorn now and then I'll get them occasionally.

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But because I know you've experienced it, I have seen

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video of it, and you know one of we talked

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about it briefly on the show a couple of times,

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but you've actually seen it. So it sounds like it's

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theoretically the same thing, is it.

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I think that fan Fest Nights no yes and no,

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yes and no. It isn't that it uses ips, uh,

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it is not in that fan Fest Nights is the

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spring version of folloween hor Nights. So it is a

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hard ticket event that is happening after hours.

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It's the Americanized version, you know America. In America, we're

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not going to give anybody anything. We've got to sell

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them an extra ticket.

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So right, and I think that that that that is

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a big right. That's a big difference because the Universal

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Cool Japan is included and it also happens throughout, so

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you know, they basically swapped them out, so they're like,

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you know, here's the Pokemon thing, and then here's this

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thing and there, and then you know, each a few

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month and a half or whatever, they swap them out.

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For fan Fest. You know, it's only one month ish

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and it is a separate ticket, so passolders have to

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pay extra, same thing. It's yeah, follows all the HHN rules, right.

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And the other part I would say is that on

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the Zeitgeist thing, I think maybe not quite. It's not quite.

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Let's say it's not as nimble because they're not swapping

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out kind of in real time. At USJ they're kind

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of locked into this thing. It's only open for a month,

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so it's not as nimble, and so I think you

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can see that in their IP choices. So this year

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we talked about themphest last year. This year they're doing.

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Their headline is Universal Monsters with Scooby Doo, so it's

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like the Scooby Doo Gang and Universal Monsters in a

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mystery caper together. And then there's a one piece in

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Sailor Moon and Harry Potter and Super Mario and Jurassic

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And you'll notice that more than half of them are

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things they already kind of do during the day, so

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they're really just ipick, Like the Harry Potter is like

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an extension of Harry Potter, right, I mean, it's not

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like they're not new ips right in that sense, right,

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they're not like so the only you know, the only

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ones they don't offer during the day. Normally it's a

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Sailor Moon and which is a meet and greet and

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a four D show they took from Japan, a forty

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video they took from Japan, and then the the one

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piece element, which they also lifted partially from Japan. They

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just shortened it again they americanized it. Wherein in Japan

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it's a full stage show that has a story that

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is about an hour long. They converted that to a

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eighteen minute stunt show that follows similar beats to water

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World and put it in the water Road stage and

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then they have meet and greets. So the only things

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they the only like ips they don't normally touch I guess,

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are the Sailor Moon and the One Piece, but all

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the other ones are stuff they do. And so back

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to our argument we made last year, I just think

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it's interesting their year two is different in that I'm

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not sure it's bringing in new new fans other than

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One Piece because all of the other fandoms that they're

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activating are things that they already do at Universal.

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Well, so to me, what that's saying is this year

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they're looking the decisions are being made based off of

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the the the accountant's books, because they're looking at they're

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looking at it going well, we've already got these people,

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how do we get more money out of them? Yeah,

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it's it's money versus driving the attendance or driving sorry,

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expanding the the interest of the park to different fandoms.

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But what is the so I haven't even seen it.

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I've seen I've seen video of the One Piece stunt show,

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which looks I mean, I'll be honest, it looks really cute.

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I mean, it's incredible it looks it is. It is

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the It is the best thing at fan Fast Nights

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by a pretty large margin. I would say it's incredible.

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The effects, especially, like it's not just water world effects,

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Like they they pull effects from the anime. So there's

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like this is actually one anime I haven't watched. So please,

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haters or whatever, you can comment on how ignorant I

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am if you want. But basically, the there are I

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know that there are you know, special attacks, and they do this,

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they recreate the special attacks but irl and so one

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of them is a giant glowing sword. So the guy

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will actually like he like activates the sword, and he

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like as he runs his hand across the blade, the

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entire sword lights up like while he's doing that. And

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then there's another man who kind of his hands disconnect

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and he can use them to go do attacks, and

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so the hands are their own puppets and so they

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like fly off of his arms and they go around

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and they cause chaos. And just seeing this those stage effects,

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I mean, those are great stage effects to have at

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this you know, at this theme park show. Effectively, these

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are like really they were really cool effects. And then

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there's all of the fighting and the swords, and you know,

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it's it's not just the water and the fire, right,

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It's it's these effects that are created to mimic the anime,

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which I think is what really sets out apart. And

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then the night that I went, the show was so

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popular they opened up the line for the seating forty

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five minutes before the showing and it reached it reached

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capacity for all the shows, and they were doing meet

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and greets with the characters in between the shows. They

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had three showings, they were doing meet and greets with

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the characters, and every time I checked on it, which

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was most of the night, the meet and greet lines

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were at capacity.

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Right.

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So same with Sailor Mooon, right, Taylor.

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Moton was these are the two that they don't have

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during you know, during regular operating hours. That's right. Clearly

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there is interest in them. So we may see the

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pendulum swing. I'm guessing we may see the pendulum swing

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back next year to you know, looking at where their

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their true their true guest satisfaction was in the in

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the thes that they don't necessarily normally use or have

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access to. Yeah, I've seen, and I've seen, and I

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it's funny because I saw just a very brief video

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clip of Sailor Moon, and the thing that impressed me

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the most is it was her actually walking to her

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meet and greet, and she was surrounded. She had more

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she had more handlers than like the president. You know,

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she was completely surrounded on all sides, and but she

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was very polite and waving to everybody, of course, but

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the guest. The guest response was huge, and I didn't

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think Sailor Moon was still was still that that viable,51200:27:37.640 --> 00:27:38.880



But clearly I'm wrong.51300:27:39.880 --> 00:27:42.079



It isn't. And again I think you have to consider51400:27:42.440 --> 00:27:44.960



this probably wouldn't work in Orlando. I think that's the51500:27:45.000 --> 00:27:49.559



other big part of this, And I'm unsure if they51600:27:49.599 --> 00:27:51.880



even need to because we've talked about this before. Where51700:27:52.039 --> 00:27:56.119



the idea that you know, it's just different in Orlando,51800:27:56.160 --> 00:27:58.880



and how they need more seasonal stuff in Hollywood. But51900:27:59.640 --> 00:28:03.000



that's one of those things, like the popularity of these52000:28:03.079 --> 00:28:05.359



some of these anime stuff is just so much greater52100:28:05.559 --> 00:28:09.799



in Soul Cow because we have a huge Asian population52200:28:09.920 --> 00:28:11.319



but also a basic interest in.52300:28:11.279 --> 00:28:14.880



Anime and well and it's also you know, the home52400:28:14.960 --> 00:28:17.440



of so many anime conventions. If they're gonna if they're52500:28:17.440 --> 00:28:21.119



gonna do Orlando. They actually, in my opinion, based on52600:28:21.200 --> 00:28:24.480



the conventions that hit hard here, things like spooking the Empire,52700:28:24.559 --> 00:28:28.839



things like Mega they need to go they need to52800:28:28.839 --> 00:28:31.039



go dark if they're going to make them work here52900:28:31.839 --> 00:28:36.279



in Orlando, and the darker. So the uh.53000:28:36.400 --> 00:28:39.680



Before we leave the show, because we're getting to the53100:28:39.759 --> 00:28:42.480



end of time, I just want to wrap up the53200:28:42.920 --> 00:28:45.519



kind of big picture about the earnings, just put it53300:28:45.519 --> 00:28:48.759



into context for everybody, just to understand that, like again,53400:28:48.839 --> 00:28:51.039



we're like forest for the trees, we're so in the53500:28:51.039 --> 00:28:53.359



theme park world. The theme parks are still only seven53600:28:53.400 --> 00:28:57.839



percent of Comcast, And in previous earnings, I think they53700:28:57.839 --> 00:29:00.599



were really highlighting the growth of theme parks because their53800:29:00.680 --> 00:29:03.720



other businesses were performing so poorly. But now that the53900:29:03.799 --> 00:29:07.359



other stuff is doing well, it seems like they're kind54000:29:07.400 --> 00:29:11.400



of moderating that a little bit. Somebody on the call54100:29:11.440 --> 00:29:13.480



asked about how they were going to allocate capital, like54200:29:13.519 --> 00:29:15.000



are you going to be putting more capital in the54300:29:15.000 --> 00:29:17.160



theme parks because the profitability or these other things, and54400:29:17.200 --> 00:29:23.599



they kind of said no. They basically said that broadband54500:29:23.680 --> 00:29:26.200



net losses have improved and it's the first improvement they've54600:29:26.200 --> 00:29:28.559



had since twenty twenty, so it's a big deal for them,54700:29:28.759 --> 00:29:31.519



and it seems like they're leaning into that by just54800:29:31.559 --> 00:29:35.680



saying that they're you know, they have six major six54900:29:35.880 --> 00:29:38.400



major growth drivers, of which the theme parks are one,55000:29:38.799 --> 00:29:41.039



and they basically just said that whatever money the theme55100:29:41.079 --> 00:29:43.759



parks generates, we'll be able to use that to help55200:29:43.799 --> 00:29:48.920



put more. But that's, you know, which is very different55300:29:48.960 --> 00:29:51.119



from saying that we're just we're going to keep investing55400:29:51.200 --> 00:29:53.240



or give them a blank check or you know, do whatever.55500:29:53.759 --> 00:29:55.640



You know, before it was like, oh, they're going to55600:29:55.680 --> 00:29:57.279



have to make a whole new business model, and now55700:29:57.279 --> 00:29:59.319



it's like, the theme parks are doing great, and if55800:29:59.359 --> 00:30:01.279



they make money, will put that money and they'll make55900:30:01.319 --> 00:30:02.799



new things with the money that they make. It's kind56000:30:02.799 --> 00:30:04.240



of to their own business, you know.56100:30:04.440 --> 00:30:07.039



Just what Disney was saying that we were talking about,56200:30:07.240 --> 00:30:08.839



you know, on the show here a couple of weeks ago.56300:30:09.279 --> 00:30:13.319



But well, you know, I guess it doesn't matter to56400:30:13.359 --> 00:30:15.079



me as long as the companies are making money so56500:30:15.079 --> 00:30:17.440



that the parks can continue. You know, I often tell56600:30:17.440 --> 00:30:20.799



my clients, what does sustainability look like? Is that is56700:30:20.839 --> 00:30:23.160



that short term profit? Is it long term profit? Is56800:30:23.200 --> 00:30:28.400



it you know, continued guest satisfaction, and it sounds like,56900:30:28.640 --> 00:30:31.559



based on this earnings call, the parks are very sustainable57000:30:31.559 --> 00:30:34.000



because they are part of a much larger company that57100:30:34.119 --> 00:30:37.160



can support them. I mean that many theme parks started57200:30:37.599 --> 00:30:41.079



because they were supporting a much larger or different organization,57300:30:41.400 --> 00:30:44.680



whether it was film based or beer based or whatever,57400:30:45.039 --> 00:30:46.839



and then the theme parks grew out of that. So57500:30:46.880 --> 00:30:49.599



they had that, They had that parachute, they had that57600:30:50.000 --> 00:30:53.039



safety net just in case anything went wrong. But I57700:30:53.039 --> 00:30:55.279



don't think anything went wrong in this show, and it's57800:30:55.440 --> 00:30:56.960



fair of me to say that because we're at the57900:30:57.039 --> 00:30:59.279



end of it. So guys, thank you once again so58000:30:59.400 --> 00:31:02.039



much for watching Green Tag Theme Park in thirty on58100:31:02.119 --> 00:31:05.519



behalf of Philip Bernandez with Ganton Lighting and Control, on myself,58200:31:05.519 --> 00:31:08.119



Scott Swinson with Scott Swentzon creative development. This has been58300:31:08.200 --> 00:31:10.119



green Tag Theme Park in thirty and we'll see all58400:31:10.119 --> 00:31:11.680



of you next week. See y

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For over 30 years, Scott Swenson has been bringing stories to life as a writer, director, producer, and performer. His work in theme parks, consumer events, live theatre, and television has given him a broad spectrum of experiences. In 2014, after 21 years with SeaWorld Parks and Entertainment, Scott formed Scott Swenson Creative Development. Since then he has been providing impactful experiences for clients around the world. Whether he is installing shows on cruise ships or creating seasonal festivals for theme parks, writing educational presentations for zoos and museums or training the next generation of attractions professionals, Scott is always finding new ways to tell stories that engage, educate and entertain.

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Philip is a journalist reporting on the Haunted House Industry, Horror events, Theme Parks, and Halloween. He is also the CEO of Gantom Lighting and Founder / Publisher of the Haunted Attraction Network, the haunted attraction industry's most prominent news media source. He is based in Los Angeles.