Aug. 13, 2024

Disney’s Villain Land and other Parks Announcements from D23

During the D23 Fan Expo last weekend, Disney confirmed plans for a new Villains Land expansion in Magic Kingdom, delighting fans and media alike. The announcement immediately drew comparisons to Universal's recent Dark Universe announcement. While...

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During the D23 Fan Expo last weekend, Disney confirmed plans for a new Villains Land expansion in Magic Kingdom, delighting fans and media alike. The announcement immediately drew comparisons to Universal's recent Dark Universe announcement. While this seems like a new season of 'Theme Park Wars' - how much of it was planned? In other words, are the two using each other to draw crowds and reduce the overall development they each do?

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Okay from our studios, this time back in Los Angeles

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and Tampa. This is Green Tag Theme Park in thirty.

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I'm Philip and I'm joined as always with my co

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host Scott Swinson, and Scott Swinson created development and Scott

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it was D twenty three this past weekend. It's it's

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just just wrapped up yesterday. We record a little bit

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late because we wanted to make sure that we got

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kind of everything here, and I think I have most

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of the park stuff for us. But D twenty three

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is is a big convention for those that don't know,

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it's in Anaheim this year, and it's a whole convention

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just basically to do Disney announcements is really what it is,

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and it's announcements running the whole gambit of the company.

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What we're going to focus on in this episode is

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just the park's information, because that's really what the show

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is about. It's not about the movies or any of that.

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We're only going to focus on the parks. But there's

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plenty of coverage about D twenty three everywhere, so you

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can look at it. It's kind of astonishing to me,

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as it always is, is how much that's all any

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one is talking about is D twenty three. So I'm

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sure all of you have heard all this stuff we're

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gonna talk about anyway, because you can't escape it well.

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And before we get into the minutia, I think just

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D twenty three in and of itself is a really

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unique phenomenon. Disney has found a way too completely as

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they have been wont to do with so many things

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in the past, they can elevate anything to the point

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where it is revenue generating. Just these are what we're

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going to talk about today. The majority of them are

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basically big press releases, and they just combine them all

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into a big event called D twenty three, and people

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pay money to go, and people and sometimes a lot

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of money to be involved. So they have monetized what

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we used to just say was a press release, correct,

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And I think that that in and of itself, if

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there's nothing else in the rest of this show that

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interests you at all, to me, that is, by far,

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from a business standpoint, one of the most unique and

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interesting things about what we're going to talk about today. Now,

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there's a lot of minutia here that I'm excited to unpackage,

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but overall, it's It's no different than you know, Walt

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Disney World celebrating one of their anniversaries for eighteen months.

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You know that it's it's our anniversary year for eighteen months.

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A year is only twelve months, but they've found a

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way to make it eighteen.

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You know.

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These are these are the kinds of things that that

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Disney is so very good at. They can they can

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play upon the the commitment the Disney files, and we

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can we will. We may argue or have a discussion

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as to how many are they waxing or waning as

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far as numbers and power. I think Universal is certainly

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nipping at their heels with their ips. But it's it's

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just fascinating to me that we can make, in essence

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a press release or the the the the making public

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of multiple press releases, a paid event.

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Yes, So to add some details to that, it is essentially, yes,

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a giant press event. I mean there are vendors, you know,

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it is if it is a full expo, there are vendors,

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there are cause players are all that kind of stuff.

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But I think that most people are there to watch

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the live presentations of the stuff we're going to be reading,

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which are essentially press conferences, just for some details. This year,

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it's sold out very quickly to attend the event and

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the tickets, the three day tickets. The base ticket was

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two hundred and ninety seven dollars, so basically one hundred

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dollars a day for the base ticket, but that went

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up to twenty five hundred dollars that for the premium

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tickets that had that had premium seating. And it's still

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a process, just like everything at Disney is a process,

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like you know, to try and get lotteries to get

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into the things you want to see and get a

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seat for the things or whatnot.

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You know, that's that's all.

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Still it's a lot, it's a lot of work just

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to like attend the press conference, you know that that

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Disney is doing for these announcements. But yeah, this year,

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In previous years it hadn't sold out quite so fast,

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but it really was. It's very it was very fast

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this year. So it was a it was a vibe.

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And the other thing I thought was interesting about the

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presentation is that it was not live streamed by Disney

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itself unless you were in like Fortnite, So like Disney

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did not produce like videos of the press conference, but

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they did live stream on a Fortnite island for people

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in Fortnite, but like other media, were also not allowed

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to live stream, but other media could make full recordings,

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but Disney never made a full recording. That was very

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weird to me, and a lot of people pointed out online,

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which the criticism that isn't that what Disney Plus should

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be for literally quite literally shouldn't it before being able

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to watch like the Disney announcements through the Disney Plus app?

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And I'm like, and I actually think it's a very

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valid critique.

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You're assuming though, that Disney Plus people are park people,

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because as you say, the majority of their announcements are parking,

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they're not.

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No, actually, actually it's only one one piece is parks.

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The rest of it is not parks. No, So of

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the three days, only one presentation is about parks. The

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rest of it is shows stuff that's on Disney Plus,

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you know, coming to Disney Plus, stuff that we have.

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Reported is not making money like it should. And yeah, yeah,

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so what matters is the parks?

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Well, I mean, but I mean just in terms of, like,

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you know, you could just buy a one day ticket

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and just go to the parks. You know thing, and

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then that's it. If if all you cared about was

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the scene parks.

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Yeah, I guess. I guess my point being. You know,

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we've talked a lot about Universal doing all their epic

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announcements and there was no there was no no pay

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to play there.

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Well, yes, but I'm not I'm just saying, if you're

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going to put it together press conference, you don't even

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record it. That seems kind of weird.

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But whatever. But why but why we were talking about it?

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They re cost them nothing.

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Well, if they made a video of it, they could

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sell access to watch that video, or they could say

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it's going to be available in Disney Plus and you

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have to subscribe to see it.

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But then it might take away the value of the

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immediate sellout of the twenty five hundred dollars tickets. I

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mean there's a lot. There's a lot, and there's also

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a cost involved in recording it and producing it and

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producing it to the level of Disney.

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Right, I mean I don't. Yeah, anyway, let's get to

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the actual announcements.

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I don't guess I guess my point. I guess my

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point is Disney's starting to recognize that stuff they put

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out has considerably less clout than stuff that online influencers

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put out or attendees put out.

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Yeah, I don't know. I mean I don't I don't

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know what they're thinking clearly. I mean with that, I

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don't know. But but let's get to the actual announcements,

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the one that the announcement with capital T in that

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the announcement that really even Disney ironic maybe ironically order,

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I don't know, even in like the Disney owned properties,

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they kind of put as the top announcement. So I

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think the consensus of the top announcement from D twenty

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three is the Villain's Land that is coming to Magic Kingdom.

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And even in the way that Disney sorted their media,

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they put it at the top. So I think even

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Disney is everyone is talking about this and interesting that

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it's really like two sentences. So here we go. So

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Josh Tomorrow announce during D twenty three the new land

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will be home to the Disney villains we know and

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loathe from our favorite Disney animation studios classic films, which

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means Happily ever After may feel just like a distant dream.

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The space will be home to two major attractions, dining

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and shopping on an incredibly twisted grand scale. The evil

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ambition of these villains means that the possibilities are endless

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for the stories that can be told, and visitors to

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the Dark and Thorny Land should be prepared for whatever

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chaos might come their way. That's all we know to

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two attractions, two major attractions, and the dye in shopping.

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They didn't say what type of attractions. There was literally

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no other details. There's a concept rendering. But I think

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this is pretty in my opinion, this is very clearly

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a response to Universal and I would think I actually

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think most people think that because there's even memes obviously

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about the looking at the two lands and how similar

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they look. But I would actually say that Universal's Land

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is a response to Disney.

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I agree one hundred percent. I was just going to

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say this is nothing new. They have been. They have

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been last D twenty three, they were dangling villains in

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front of people left and right. But again D twenty

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three is also in the past has been used as

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paid market research. So what they do is they put

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out these let's talk about a little bit of this

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and a little bit of that, and they see what

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the response is from people who care enough to pay

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money just to be part of it.

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Yep, yeah, I think and I think think actually Universal

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is the winner. Like this whole weekend has convinced me

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that Universal is the winner. That's just my personal take.

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I think that Universal managed to out maneuver Disney quite

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handedly in this situation where they took all the steam

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out of Disney's Villain sales by announcing their own you know,

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Dark Universe or dome section of that dark universe in

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Epic Universe, that and all the details and this new

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ride that's going to be the best thing they've ever done,

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and all these things, and Disney is like, there's gonna

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be two things plus some other stuff and no details,

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no date, no timeline, no anything, and like in the

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time that so basically, Universal let Disney do their market

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research for them and verify the concept, and then they maneuver.

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And then they knew that they were going to rebuild

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D twenty three this year because they knew the dates

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would do twenty three, so they moved the announcement order around.

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Because we were wondering why they announced it in the

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order they did and the timeline they did, and here's why.

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Because they were able to already set up a scenario

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where now everybody is comparing Disney to Universal and they

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are saying, well, we have all the deals Universal and

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it's going to be great, and we don't know anything

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that's coming at all to Disney, but it'll be something

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with villains maybe if they make it, And what if

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it's ten years, what if it's twenty thirty five, and

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what if it ends up being just like attraction, meaning

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like a restaurant, like two restaurants plus another restaurant, so

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like three restaurants. We don't know, and like that's I

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think Universal arranged all of this on purpose, and it's

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like a giant mouse trap.

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That's my that's my theory. Well, and it's and it's

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unique because I think I think, first of all, to

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think that the parks don't know what each other is

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doing is a complete joke. They know exactly what each

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other is. Just so many people work and go back

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because so many people work both and you know, they're

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major announcements quote unquote. Major announcements are not something that

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just magically pop up. They take planning after planning, after planning.

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So when you think of the big theme parks as

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individual entities. You're probably not getting the whole picture. You

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probably need to look at it as one giant amalgam

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because I know, you know, even back when I was

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working at Bush, we knew when announcements were coming out.

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We knew exactly when they were coming out for Disney

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and for Universal and for whatever. And so yes, we

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would respond in kind. We would either delay an announcement

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or push an announcement out front. It's nothing new, it's

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nothing new. When you say win. I think you can

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say they won the week, but they've won the battle.

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I'm not sure they've won the war. And the only

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reason I say that is because the the the ips

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that we're going to talk about here are similar but different.

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You know, you can't say that Universal monsters and Disney

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villains have the same the same audience. They have a

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slight overlap. There is a little you know, Vin diagram

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that has a slightly overlap. But but I think the

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proof will be in the pudding, because yes, we do know,

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we do have more details. But I think we also

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have to take into consideration that Philip, you and I

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spend a lot more time looking into what does this mean?

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would lay money that thirty five percent of the people

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that if we were to do a straw pole right now,

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of the average frontline people, they're like, they would think

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in their minds that Disney has given as much detail

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as Universal has because they won't be able to separate, which.

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Is which maybe I mean, I don't, I don't know.

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I think more you can think Harry Potter is at Disney.

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working as a one entity in a way is I

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think more to me, that's more resonating.

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That that's even more clear as to why Universal in

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its announcement is trying to differentiate Dark Universe as being

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the place for adults to go have wicked fun versus

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the Disney Villains, which is not going to be for adults,

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and we just know it because it's Disney and it's

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at Magic Kingdom, and Magic Kingdom is the kids park,

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you know. I mean, so I think that there, I

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think you could see it. If you think of it

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as one thing, one ecosystem, then you're like, well, if

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you're an adult and you want more wicked, spooky stuff,

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you do this and if you're a family of four

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but one of your kids likes Moleficent, you go to

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this one. I mean, I think they're really trying to

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draw the lines in the sand. I even think they're

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trying to draw lines in sand with terms of like

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who gets what year, because the earliest we need to

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get to the other announcements, but the earliest announced for

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spoilers alert, the earliest announcement of anything that might be

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opening is going to be besides a parade, it's going

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to be the An Area in twenty twenty seven. So

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that means that they're basically giving Universal basically two years.

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like they're like, Okay, we're both gonna do villains, or

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we're both gonna do dark stuff. You're gonna get the

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adults and that probably the drinking and some sort of

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thing with bran consigned shots or that glow in the

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dark or something, and then like, you know, Disney is

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gonna get like Malificent and whatever. Fine, and then they're like, okay,

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you're gonna get twenty twenty five and twenty twenty six,

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and we're gonna get twenty twice.

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to get some of the spill over because it's going

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to bring tourism. It's going to bring tourism to Orlando,

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which is to go to Universal. But almost everybody I

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know who travels from a distance will spend even if

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they're staying on Universal property. We'll say, well, we're here,

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we might as well run over to Magic Kingdom. How

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we're here, we might as well run over. So you know,

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when again, going back to Bush Gardens, I was wearing

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at Bush Gardens when Animal Kingdom opened, and to do

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a theme park based on animals with live animals was

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terrifying to us because that's what Bush Gardens, Tampa is,

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And what we discovered is that was one of the

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we had a huge bump in attendance because the people

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who are who wanted to come to see Disney's Animal Kingdom,

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and since we're here, let's go see the other park

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that's of interest to us, which is Bush Garden Stampa. Yeah.

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can they can ride in the in the wake of

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each other.

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Correct, Yeah, they don't need so. In essence, Disney does

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not actually need to release something in the same time

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because they're going to get a bump anyway, because people

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are coming for epic, so why would.

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But I do You just want to point out there

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is a level of I do. I'm still going to

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stick by my front, front of front of house or

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front of line in frontline people, the guests who aren't

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into the industry, who are just there to have fun.

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Just the fact that the two promotional images look so

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darn much alike unless you really pick at them, and

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if you just glance at them, you won't know which

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is which. So I think there's a little intent there too.

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Yeah, okay, let's let's get let's is there. The other

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thing come to Magic Kingdom is the car's attraction and

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says away from those of vicious villains. Cars is also

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racing into the Magic Kingdom in a reimagined section of Frontierland.

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Guests will lee raid or springs behind and head off

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into the wilderness with two new cars attractions, one that

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will be an off road thrilling rally race and a

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family friendly attraction that even the youngest racers will love.

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To make way for this completely new frontier, The rivers

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of America and Toomswater Island will be transformed into vast,

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rugged terrains for a rally race with some of the

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world's most iconic racers. The new area will bring you

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along for the ride with a brand new thrilling rally

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race through the mountains, climbing trails and dodging geysers. In

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addition to the second attraction, gear towards the fund for

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the whole family. Ahead of the revving into high gear

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the work Revnu to high Gear, guests will have plenty

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of time to experience the charming nossolgia of Frontierland as

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it is today. Together, these two new additions to Magic

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Kingdom will represent the largest expansion in park history. So

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I don't think we need to too much here. It's

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basically what we've talked about. They're making stuff more IP friendly.

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It's the same thing they've been doing in other places,

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makingly more free, primarily going in expanding into Magic Kingdom

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versus o other you know, like making that park already

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larger to kind of go into their current investment and

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switching stuff over into IP IP versus non IP, and.

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To me, the most interesting phrase in this entire section

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is ahead of work, revving up into high gear. Next year,

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guests will have plenty of time to experience the charm

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and nostalgia of frontier Land as it is today. So,

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in other words, they're using an announcement for the future

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to say, hey, you better come now to experience this

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if it's what you remembered from your childhood. So what

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they're doing is they're announcing something that's way down the road.

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They're also saying, but if you want to see the

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things that you know in love already, you got one

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more shot. They've lit a fuse, which I think is

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really smart.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, And again to your point, you can

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see that working where they're like, well, if you are

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coming to visit Epic Universe, that new thing, then you

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might as well come visit Frontierland before it disappears, because

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it's an overlap yep.

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So it's the phrase in theater that we use. Tickets

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are going fast, whether they really are or not. It's

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lighting a fuse on. You've got a limited amount of

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time to experience this.

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They also announced something coming to Animal Kingdom, Indiana Jones

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and Encanto or Coming to Animal Kingdom. A new adventure

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awaits at Disney Animal Kingdom Theme Park with the addition

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of a new space themed around Tropical Americas Welcome to

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a Pueblo Esperanza. Work on this new eleven acre section

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of the park is set to begin later this year.

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Just like Harambei, the land that feels lived in with

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a rich long history. Plus, there's a large hacienda which

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will be one of the largest quick service restaurants at

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Walthies and World Resort. The space will be lush and sprawling,

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featuring a large mountain large fountain in the center where

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the villagers like to gather and tell stories. Additionally, a

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woodcarver has created a giant working carousel featuring his favorite

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animals from Disney stories. It's a new take on the

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classic attraction that young families are going to love uland

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will include two signature attractions. One is Indiana Jones and

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the other is in Kanto. For Indiana Jones, they say

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that a new India experience is set to arrive at

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Disneylandal Kingdom and will be different from any other Indiana

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Jones experiences. Around the world. In this new venture, the

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man that with the hat has recently discovered the perfectly

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preserved Maya Temple and it can only be one thing.

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It's time to explore it. He's said rumors about a

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mythical creature deep in the temple and he's got to

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see it for himself, so he brings us along for

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the adventure. Will there be snakes, We'll just have to

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wait and see. And just a note that that is

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replacing Dinosaur. And another note to that is that Dinosaur

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and the Indiana Jones ride at Disneyland are actually the

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same ride vehicle and the same ride track and systems.

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They're just different over skins. And so I think that's

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when they say that it's going to be different from

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any experience from the world. I think they're trying to

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head off people saying that you're just going to reskin

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Dinosaur into Indiana. It's gonna be the same as Disneyland,

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which I think they're trying to tell us they're not

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really doing that, but they're probably going to do that.

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So in Kanto and the Acanto attraction, the description for

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that is if you're a fan of George floors and doors,

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Let's Go. The first ever in Kanto themed ride through

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attraction is coming to Animal Kingdom, featuring the beloved and

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Madrigal family from the Walt Disney Animated Studios film. Inside

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the Casita, Antonio has just received his special gift, the

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ability to communicate with animals, and his room has transformed

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into a rainforest. It's time to go explore alongside him,

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and you never know what member of the family you

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might bump into. Construction on the land is set to

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begin this fall and will open in twenty twenty seven.

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Yep, yep. So I will be completely honest at least

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speaking well, this is opinion. I will put that right

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out front. I don't think Animal Kingdom has ever really clicked.

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I don't think that the guests have ever really gone

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oh my gosh, I have to go to Animal Kingdom

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to see this, and I think this is another attempt

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to make that happen. I think the fact that Dinosaur

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has gone. I think the fact that you know, Chester

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and Hester that spinning coaster gone. I think they can't

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the fact they could never really find a show to

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put to put in what was originally the Tarzan Space

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or what is what was the Tarzan Space was originally

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the Jungle Book Space. They just can't quite nail that

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one down, and I'm curious to see how this will go.

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It's it's interesting to me that they are really diving

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in hard because if you go to Harambe right now,

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it's not really Disney IP themed. Yes they appear there, but.

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This is this is going in this, Yes, this is

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taking on Dino Land, which is not IP and putting

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in IP thing, which is exactly what they're doing with

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the Frontier Land.

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Well, that's exactly what they did with with Epcot as

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they've you know, taken the the World Showcase and put

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Frozen in there, put Frozen in and continue to do

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all that. And and the mouse not Mickey Nato in

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the French area, Yeah, in France. So it it's that

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this just might be what it takes to make Animal

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Kingdom a destination.

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Yes, yeah, I think again it's the same strategy, right,

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and I think you're right though. The reason I think

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that they're trying to make it seem like they're adding

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to attractions even though one is really just reskinting Dinah Land,

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is that they are trying to make that click more

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the Animal Kingdom stuff click And to your point too,

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I think again they're like, we'll just close it and

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fall because like nobody really cares. Manal just close it.

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It's I mean, this is gonna be the first one

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they're closing, right, So they're closing like this area right

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in fall and then they're gonna and that's soon. I

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mean that's not a I mean this the timeline. I

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mean if you look compare them where they're like, you're

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gonna have plenty of time to nostalgic Frontier Land well

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and this one they're like, ah, dial Lands closing like

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like next month and then then you know it'll be

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open already closed.

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Oh I don't know. I think dinosaurs already closed.

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But so so that's that back at Magic Kingdom really quick.

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There is going to be a new parade that's going

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to be in summer twenty twenty five, which is one

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hundred percent a to line up with Epic in my opinion.

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In summer twenty twenty five, at brand new Preid will

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make its way to the most magical place on Earth.

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Disney Starlight will continue the night time spectacular legacy started

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by the mainstream electrical parade using the latest technology to

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tell new stories about the characters you love. All of

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this is brought to life by the Magic of the

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Blue Faerry. In addition to bloved characters from Waltessney Animation Studios,

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films Peter Pan and Conto, Frozen and more. I mean

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the show that I just saw in Tokyo. I love

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the show, the nighttime Show in Tokyo, and of course

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there's Paint the Night also in California. I think the

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technology has come so far from when the electrical prey

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was first installed that you really can create spectacular floats.

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And I think, I mean clearly, this is just clearly

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they're like, go, well, I'll just put a parade there

476
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and that'll be just enough to convince people between the

477
00:24:00.279 --> 00:24:03.079
nostalgia to see frontier Land and the parade to come

478
00:24:03.119 --> 00:24:05.599
over when they book there. So when people book their

479
00:24:05.599 --> 00:24:07.759
three day ticket, you know, to Epic, you know that

480
00:24:07.759 --> 00:24:09.559
at least they can do one day at Magic Kingdom

481
00:24:09.559 --> 00:24:10.960
and see the new parade and see the thing.

482
00:24:10.960 --> 00:24:13.960
I think that's exactly what they're doing, absolutely, And even

483
00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:18.000
if it is just to come over and see the parade, yeah,

484
00:24:18.599 --> 00:24:22.079
there are people who will do that. A new nighttime parade.

485
00:24:22.119 --> 00:24:24.720
Let's go see that. Yeah, oh they do half a day.

486
00:24:24.920 --> 00:24:26.880
They only do half a day in their three of

487
00:24:26.920 --> 00:24:29.519
their third day and Universal properties.

488
00:24:29.759 --> 00:24:34.240
So okay. Moving over to Hollywood Studios. So that the

489
00:24:34.359 --> 00:24:37.000
only the only one we haven't talked about yet besides

490
00:24:37.039 --> 00:24:39.960
Epcotic guess nothing with announced wrap cop but Hollywood Studios.

491
00:24:40.319 --> 00:24:42.759
Monsters Inc. Is coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios that picks

492
00:24:42.759 --> 00:24:45.000
our franchisees is getting a new land which will welcome

493
00:24:45.039 --> 00:24:47.079
guests to tour the Laugh Factory with the amazing new

494
00:24:47.079 --> 00:24:51.279
attraction that that will be the first suspended coaster ever

495
00:24:51.359 --> 00:24:53.880
in a Disney park. The power of friendship and laughter

496
00:24:53.920 --> 00:24:55.720
is at the heart of so many Disney stories, especially

497
00:24:55.720 --> 00:24:58.279
Monsters Inc. Now we're giving fans a whole new way

498
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to experience this world in a Disney theme park and

499
00:25:00.160 --> 00:25:04.039
connect with the characters they love. No details or timeline

500
00:25:04.119 --> 00:25:06.720
or anything at all, but Monsters coming to it. It

501
00:25:06.759 --> 00:25:09.400
also reminds me of the the Internation in Tokyo, which

502
00:25:09.440 --> 00:25:11.119
is so much better than the one that we we

503
00:25:11.160 --> 00:25:13.240
have in the US, where it has the little flashlight

504
00:25:13.279 --> 00:25:15.920
things and you and you trigger stuff in the environment.

505
00:25:17.039 --> 00:25:21.039
So I think it's a I think that scene and

506
00:25:21.119 --> 00:25:23.119
the whole thing is very iconic, and it's it's it's

507
00:25:23.119 --> 00:25:25.240
gonna think that this is gonna be good. I think

508
00:25:25.240 --> 00:25:27.319
it's gonna be good, but when it's gonna happen, we

509
00:25:27.359 --> 00:25:31.200
don't know. Those are all the announcements for Florida, and

510
00:25:31.240 --> 00:25:33.720
the only thing I want to add about it is

511
00:25:33.759 --> 00:25:38.680
that I just think it's interesting that they're investing so

512
00:25:38.799 --> 00:25:42.640
much in Florida when we kind of just talked about

513
00:25:42.680 --> 00:25:47.839
how the better the better markets are the overseas mark.

514
00:25:47.880 --> 00:25:50.279
I mean because because you know, in a way, uh,

515
00:25:50.319 --> 00:25:52.839
you know, the Orlando market is relatively capped. I mean,

516
00:25:52.960 --> 00:25:55.759
if you look at relativity here we're speaking relativity, Are

517
00:25:55.799 --> 00:25:59.640
you going to be able to double the attend the

518
00:25:59.839 --> 00:26:03.920
the the tourism in Orlando? Probably not, because of things

519
00:26:03.960 --> 00:26:05.920
we talked about before on the show, which is lack

520
00:26:05.920 --> 00:26:08.839
of affordable housing, lack of staffing, lack of you know,

521
00:26:08.960 --> 00:26:12.920
all the infrastructure for the airport. I mean, the percentage

522
00:26:12.920 --> 00:26:17.160
of increase is lower in the Orlando market as opposed

523
00:26:17.160 --> 00:26:21.160
to a place other places around that are developing bigger

524
00:26:21.200 --> 00:26:24.519
infrastructure and that don't have as much now, so they

525
00:26:24.559 --> 00:26:26.559
have more room to grow, more easy room to grow.

526
00:26:26.720 --> 00:26:29.880
So it's very interesting to me that they're planning so

527
00:26:29.960 --> 00:26:32.039
much for Florida, and it does make me think that

528
00:26:32.039 --> 00:26:36.000
they are trying to balance a little bit with Epic.

529
00:26:36.240 --> 00:26:39.759
You know, absolutely, absolutely, the optics are such that if

530
00:26:39.799 --> 00:26:43.960
they didn't announce all of these kinds of major expansions,

531
00:26:44.279 --> 00:26:46.880
then basically it would be like rolling over to Universal.

532
00:26:46.960 --> 00:26:47.240
Yeah.

533
00:26:47.319 --> 00:26:51.119
And you know, whether it's whether it's happening at the

534
00:26:51.119 --> 00:26:53.599
same time or it's being staggered so that they can

535
00:26:53.720 --> 00:26:56.880
ride the They can ride the wave of Epic for

536
00:26:56.920 --> 00:26:59.279
two years and then start opening things there so that

537
00:26:59.279 --> 00:27:03.200
the pendulum will swing back, you know, the pen There's

538
00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:05.519
only a finite amount of time in a family's vacation,

539
00:27:06.039 --> 00:27:08.440
and if you try to just if it comes down

540
00:27:08.480 --> 00:27:11.160
to steel steel steel steel steel, both sides are going

541
00:27:11.200 --> 00:27:14.400
to lose. So they have to kind of play nice together.

542
00:27:14.559 --> 00:27:16.920
Going back to the macrocosm that I was talking about earlier,

543
00:27:17.759 --> 00:27:19.519
they have to kind of play nice together in order

544
00:27:19.559 --> 00:27:22.440
to really have any sense of success at all. I

545
00:27:22.480 --> 00:27:26.119
will say just the the monsters inc. We don't have details,

546
00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:30.279
as Philip said, and I agree with that. The conceptual

547
00:27:30.400 --> 00:27:34.400
drawings look and I have not experienced any of the

548
00:27:34.400 --> 00:27:38.319
other Monsters Inc attractions. But what it looks like to

549
00:27:38.359 --> 00:27:43.680
me is a version of what they did with How

550
00:27:43.720 --> 00:27:49.920
to Train Your Dragon at the Dubai Park, which was

551
00:27:50.000 --> 00:27:52.920
that they did a great overhead coaster that also had

552
00:27:53.000 --> 00:27:58.480
great storytelling and good audio animatronics and it basically speeds up,

553
00:27:58.519 --> 00:28:00.799
slows down and that has a rip, roar and end,

554
00:28:01.119 --> 00:28:03.559
which is all kinds of fun. Yes, so this is

555
00:28:03.559 --> 00:28:03.920
the thing.

556
00:28:03.799 --> 00:28:04.720
I'm most excited about.

557
00:28:04.720 --> 00:28:07.680
Actually, yeah, it could be really fun. Yeah, it could

558
00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:09.359
be really fun. Yeah. If I had to, Yeah, if

559
00:28:09.359 --> 00:28:11.319
I had to pick something here, it's for me. It's

560
00:28:11.440 --> 00:28:12.960
it's I want to see villains.

561
00:28:13.119 --> 00:28:17.119
Yeah, I want villain villains and the monsters. I think conceptually,

562
00:28:17.559 --> 00:28:19.039
I think the other stuff kind of looks like stuff

563
00:28:19.039 --> 00:28:22.279
we've already seen before. So okay, I want to make

564
00:28:22.279 --> 00:28:24.160
sure you at least read some of the announcements that

565
00:28:24.519 --> 00:28:25.960
the other ones that and we're not gonna have time

566
00:28:25.960 --> 00:28:27.680
to talk about them, but I'll just give you guys

567
00:28:27.720 --> 00:28:30.079
the highlights and then you can go look at the thing.

568
00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:32.079
Scott, shut up, don't comment, just just listen.

569
00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:35.680
Well maybe okay, so it's always work, but that's what

570
00:28:35.759 --> 00:28:39.319
you strike say. There was stuff announced for California. We're

571
00:28:39.359 --> 00:28:40.960
not gonna have time to go through it, but they did.

572
00:28:41.319 --> 00:28:43.759
They did show off the ride vehicle for the King

573
00:28:43.839 --> 00:28:47.119
Banos ride, which looks exactly like the ride vehicle system

574
00:28:47.279 --> 00:28:50.079
for a Spider Man the Universal has. It's basically just

575
00:28:50.119 --> 00:28:52.880
like uh or Transformers. It's basically just seems like it's

576
00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:55.000
going to be like the Transformers, but the Disney version.

577
00:28:55.200 --> 00:28:58.640
So that's they did announce. They gave more details for

578
00:28:58.680 --> 00:29:01.640
Avatar and more tis for the King Fanls ride at

579
00:29:01.680 --> 00:29:04.240
the Avengers campus. Go look at those renderings if you

580
00:29:04.279 --> 00:29:06.880
want to see what that's about. They did the big

581
00:29:06.920 --> 00:29:10.000
announcement for there was the Cocoa ride that is coming,

582
00:29:11.039 --> 00:29:13.400
and they all they said about it is that it's

583
00:29:13.400 --> 00:29:15.839
going to look like Hant Mansion and Pirates for inspiration,

584
00:29:16.119 --> 00:29:18.480
where they're going to bring the skeletal cast of characters

585
00:29:18.480 --> 00:29:20.880
to life in a big way to the latest audio

586
00:29:20.880 --> 00:29:23.480
anatrontous technology. These cigres will appear in ways you haven't

587
00:29:23.480 --> 00:29:26.039
seen before. The Disney is going to break ground on

588
00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:30.640
Coco in twenty twenty six at Disney californ Adventure. So

589
00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:34.200
that was the updates for California. They did announce a

590
00:29:34.480 --> 00:29:37.440
new ride that's going to happen at Disney and Paris,

591
00:29:37.640 --> 00:29:38.960
and it's going to be in the new area we

592
00:29:39.000 --> 00:29:42.599
talked about where they they renamed the Hollywood Side Over

593
00:29:43.160 --> 00:29:45.480
and this is part of that expansion because it's you know,

594
00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:47.319
it's IP, it's based on the movie. It's basically just

595
00:29:47.359 --> 00:29:51.599
going to be like a a retelling of the movie.

596
00:29:51.640 --> 00:29:53.839
You're heading beneath the cabins of Triede Rock. The new

597
00:29:53.880 --> 00:29:56.440
attraction will bring you alongside Simpa's journey from cub to

598
00:29:56.519 --> 00:29:58.279
king and it's going to feel like you step right

599
00:29:58.319 --> 00:30:01.519
into the movie. So it's it's exactly the same theme

600
00:30:01.559 --> 00:30:03.480
they were talking about when we, you know, about the

601
00:30:03.519 --> 00:30:07.200
re theming of that focusing on the IPS and being

602
00:30:07.519 --> 00:30:09.880
instead of the storytelling of how to make the movie,

603
00:30:10.160 --> 00:30:12.480
it's going to become more about just stepping into the movies,

604
00:30:12.519 --> 00:30:15.599
which is exactly this ride that they announced coming over there.

605
00:30:16.960 --> 00:30:20.359
They also announced Spider Man roller Coaster that's coming to

606
00:30:20.440 --> 00:30:23.160
Shanghai Disney. This one was not talked about it all

607
00:30:23.240 --> 00:30:25.599
very much in the US. It was really pushed in China.

608
00:30:25.640 --> 00:30:28.759
So we're gonna link to the South China Morning Post

609
00:30:28.960 --> 00:30:32.440
that did an article on this and that kind of

610
00:30:32.960 --> 00:30:36.519
kind of spun it as them trying to capture local tourists,

611
00:30:36.519 --> 00:30:39.920
which I thought was funny, But all I know is fun.

612
00:30:40.039 --> 00:30:44.440
All they said is that they didn't really say much

613
00:30:44.480 --> 00:30:46.000
about it. It just said that it's going to be

614
00:30:46.000 --> 00:30:48.319
a themed roller coaster ride that will offer Guess a

615
00:30:48.359 --> 00:30:51.200
high speed, fully immersive experience. It did not reveal the

616
00:30:51.240 --> 00:30:53.599
investment or the construction date for the ninth attraction of

617
00:30:53.640 --> 00:30:57.920
the Shanghai Disneyland Amusement Park. It was announced just eight

618
00:30:57.920 --> 00:31:02.519
months after Zootopia opening, and it said that the construction

619
00:31:02.680 --> 00:31:05.359
and preparation work will begin earlier this or began earlier

620
00:31:05.400 --> 00:31:08.680
this year. So those are all the parks announcements. We're

621
00:31:08.680 --> 00:31:09.880
done there, we.

622
00:31:09.839 --> 00:31:11.960
Go, okay, so you didn't need to go to D

623
00:31:12.039 --> 00:31:16.240
twenty three. We just did it here. So I hope

624
00:31:16.240 --> 00:31:20.000
that you will forgive us for focusing only on one park. Really,

625
00:31:20.079 --> 00:31:22.000
actually we didn't. We did sort of talk about the

626
00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:25.599
Macrocosm here in Florida. But we hope you have enjoyed

627
00:31:25.599 --> 00:31:29.680
at least our takes and our quips about these these announcements,

628
00:31:29.759 --> 00:31:32.480
and we'll see where they go. Once again, we always

629
00:31:32.519 --> 00:31:34.519
say it all comes down to execution and we'll see

630
00:31:34.519 --> 00:31:37.680
how that all turns out, and timing, et cetera, et cetera,

631
00:31:37.720 --> 00:31:41.119
et cetera. So, speaking of timing, we're out of it.

632
00:31:41.279 --> 00:31:44.079
So on behalf of Philip and myself. This is Green

633
00:31:44.119 --> 00:31:46.200
Tag Theme Park in thirty and we will see you

634
00:31:46.279 --> 00:31:48.160
and all of your best friends next week