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Hello from our studios in Los Angeles and Tampa. This
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is Green Tags Theme Park and thirty. I'm Philip from
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Ganta Mighty and Controls, and I'm joined by my co
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host Scott Swinson of Scott Swinson creat Development. On Green Tag,
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we look at the top news each week and explain
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why it matters to industry professionals. And this week we're
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gonna get just a little tiny bit of six Flags
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news because we've got to keep that in there. That's
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what the fans want, clearly. And then we have a
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little bit of other news on some changes at Disney
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is making to its story.
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Ah. So we're both tired, so hopefully.
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Hopefully I won't doze off during the show's yeah, that's
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I have my I have my cup of coffee here.
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I should be good, but fingers crossed that I don't
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dose off during the show.
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Well, I mean any more than usual, you know, yeah,
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especially when we're so I know Scott's favorite topic, six Flags.
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Yay, let's talk about six Flags some more here on
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Green six Flags tagged. That's what Steve park and six
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flags Actually Green tag six Flags in thirty is probably
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what the new name of the show should.
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So the only news this week. There wasn't really that
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any big news this week from six Flags. But before
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we get to the little news segment, I didn't want
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to address a comment that was put in last week's
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show by Jason Neville Neverless, and it basically he called
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out a comment he basically he said, I am doesn't
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own any parks. They operate parks at ERP owns what
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other parks is the ERP O and it's on their website.
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They took it off their website, but I was able
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to scrape some old data from it, so I wonder
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if there's a reason that they took it down. But
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Jason is correct in this, so I think last week
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I didn't make it clear like I didn't, I didn't
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make it clear enough like what I am, which is
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the innovative trash management, like what they are, who they are,
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all that, but they're an operator and then owners of
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the properties they operate is under ERP Properties and they're
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a huge real estate investment trust. They have a lot
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of stuff that's not just theme parks as well kind
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of all of the hospitality ecosystem that they have. So basically,
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I think it'd be more clear to say that in
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the model we were discussing last week, that the ERP
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would be putting up the money to buy the assets
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and then the IAM will be a long term lease
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to run the businesses. And that's why I am is
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the one that's doing the trademarks and doing all the
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branding and doing all that stuff to make it to
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make it look pretty, because they're the ones doing the
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lease and doing the management of it. But it's just
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the money is probably coming from the ERP properties. Again,
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this isn't confirmed. We're still in this the world of speculation.
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But I think this makes it a lot clearer because
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we were talking last week about the money and where
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all that's going to come from, and it's probably going
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to come from this big fund. And if you look
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at their portfolio, which I did browse the stuff that
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was still on there, you can see it's a it's
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a massive portfolio. So it's it's I think it it's
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valid that.
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They have the funds to be able to pull this off.
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And it's also it's also that yeah, they they own
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and they own some parks. They do have a connection
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to six Flags already. That's our Yes, you know they
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there are some parks that are operated by six Flags
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that they actually own.
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Is that correct, Phillip. I want to make sure I'm
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stating that correctly.
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So there is all the stuff that we said in
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the discussion. This does not necessarily undermine it, but it
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does help clarify it.
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So thank you Jason.
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That was that was really helpful, and hopefully it will
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help sort of unmuddy or clear the water unmuddy. Well,
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there's a very convoluted way of saying clear the water.
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Hopefully it'll clear the water a little I'm tired. It'll
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clear the water a little bit and make it a
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little bit easier at least for us to understand. And
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you know, we'll see still see where we go because
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everything we said in the last episode still kind of
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holds true. But this just adds another another lens of clarity.
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So thank you very much, Jason. We really do appreciate it,
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as with all of our listeners. Whenever you comment, whenever
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you you know, call us out, whenever.
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You support us. This is the purpose of this is.
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Engagement, So we really enjoy the fact that you know,
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we hear from you and you share your thoughts and
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your deeper exploration of some of the topics that we
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talk about just to keep us all honest.
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So that's awesome.
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And the little news we got this week is that
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six Flags is expanding its grad Night and it's essentially
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adding k not Sperry Farm, and Krawins as places that
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will offer grad Night experiences.
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Now, these are.
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A little after hours events that feature dance parties, dining games,
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and more that create a unique experiences that are close
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to home and more cost effective than a destination graduation trip.
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Many success Parts have hosted successful grad Night events for
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more than a decade, which they said in their press
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release about this event, the only thing I thought was
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interesting about this is just again reframing the audience of
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six Flags.
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We've talked a lot about how part of.
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The reason that they're in this like self fulfilling prophecy
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type of thing is that the audience that they're catering
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to is definitely I'm not gonna I mean, they're not
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low value, but they're just it's a it's a younger
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it's just like a haunt, right that has a young
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teen and tween audience, and that it brings with it
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stuff that you know, that's why they need the chaperone policy,
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and they have all of this you know, chaos, and
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I think if what they're saying is that they want
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to build more immersive areas and cater to a higher
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spend customer, like like a Disney, it's like doing events
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like the Ground, I think it's kind of the opposite
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direction to do stuff like this because you're, you know,
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this is catering to a lower price point and that
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kind of a thing, which again, you know, I don't know,
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but that's to me, it's a little bit of a mismatch.
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But maybe they're just not there, you know.
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I just when I think of this, I think of
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like looking at the two comparisons in the local markets. Right, so,
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now Knots is going to be offering this grad night thing,
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but then you have like Sweetheart Night and the Disney
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answer dark events, which are on average one hundred and
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fifty to one hundred and sixty five per person, you know,
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for this for the same type of event. It's like
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an after dark type of thing that's four or five
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hours and includes photo ops and whatever stuff they're adding in.
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have been talking about this whole idea of like the
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Barbell thing or the vanishing middle right. And so I
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think it seems like this is them doubling down on
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the value minded consumer, which is exactly what they're when they
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say that, when they literally say that it's more cost effective,
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that they're they're making the value proposition right, which is like, well,
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that's kind of not really targeting than the that that
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other end.
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I think you got to zoom out just to scoch
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because if you stay focused just on this event, I
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agree with you one hundred percent. However, if you back
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out just a little bit and recognize they already have
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this market, they own this market, they can they this
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is low hanging fruit for them, and so it is it.
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I would think it would be ill advised to completely
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turn your backs on the younger market, on the high
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school market, because again, six Flags kind of already has that,
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and if you're getting it's it's kind of a way
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to say, we're not turning our backs on our quote
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unquote beloved fans. We're not turning our back on our
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core market for the most completely. In fact, we're offering this.
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And the other thing too is when you do grad nights.
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Grad nights are actually easier to control because part of
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the reason people want to shift away from high school
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audiences is not only their spend is less, but quite
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often if they are left to their own devices, they
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also are significantly more destructive to the park. And I
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don't I'm not saying that high school kids are bad.
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I'm just saying that generally speaking, when you put in
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when you put in a group of high school students together,
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especially if you have rival high schools, you have the
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potential of some shenanigans going on. But in a grad
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night it is a controlled or more controlled environment. It
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is a usually has a chaperone policy that is even
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more strength than their daytime and in fact, for grad
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nights it used to be Now I can't speak for
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six Flags, but it used to be in many parks
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that you had to have one chaperone for x number
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of students, and those chaperones, at least of bush gardens,
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the chaperones actually had to register their contact information with
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the park, so if anything happened from their school, those
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chaperones would be contacted and they would be they would
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be dealt with immediately. So it is a more controlledronment
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than just doing things that high school kids like. And
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one of the things that that I know Bush Gardens
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explored a while back was not only high school graduation night,
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but junior high graduation night. And that was a little
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a little simpler to do because A it ended earlier
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because parents wouldn't want their kids out quite as late,
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and b it it was there was less There was
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less violence that happened in the parks during junior high graduation.
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I think you know they you can't just when you're
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changing your demographic. You have to kind of turn like
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an aircraft carrier, not like a speedboat. So you can't
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immediately turn your backs on them and say, nope, we're
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writing you guys off. What they're doing to me, it
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sounds like is they're they're offering this to an audience
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they know they have the ear of, they know they
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have control of, they know they will want to go
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to their to six flags parks to celebrate their graduation,
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so it might help fund further turns in the opposite direction.
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Plus you know in California you mentioned the Disney competitive
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nights like the Sweetheart's Knights or whatever they're called for
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Valentine's Day and whatever. I don't think six Flags is
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ready to do that, nor do I think they have
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an audience that's interested in it. Yet I think they
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have to shift that so, and I don't think they
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want to go directly up against a Disney property.
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So incorporating grad Night into not Spray Farm makes sense
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to me. Actually, I'm surprised they haven't been doing it
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all along. And you know, grad Night, I will say
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grad Night is kind of like printing money as long
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as you take into consideration your extra security needs and
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that you are able to offer a safe environment and
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a controlled environment where and especially if your core demographic
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is primarily high school students. So it doesn't I understand
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what you're saying, Philip, and I don't disagree with you that.
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On the surface, if you look just at this event,
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it seems like it's going against what they said they
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were going to do.
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However it's not. I think they're recognizing you can't. We
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can't do this like a light switch.
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We can't just all of a sudden say, oh, we're
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not going to pay any attention to the people who
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are already paying to come to our parks. That they
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have to continue to offer things that these guests will
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not will not be interested in, but they still have
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to have things that they will be interested in as
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well until such time as they can make a full
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transmission transition. I think what they're really going to do
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is right size their demographic. I think they're trying to
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find that balance between the younger roller coaster fans, I mean,
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the younger high school students, early college kids, and the
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adult side that can actually generate more revenue. But there's
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a lot more high school kids who are going to
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theme park, So they got to find that balance, and
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I think this is a step to do that.
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In a controlled way.
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See, this is why I like doing the show, because
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I never thought about the concept of it being a
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more controlled environment.
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So it's actually allowing them to double.
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Down on an audience they're already invested in by expanding
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the events, but it's by doing it in a way
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where they do mitigate most of the downside. Like they're
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mitigating the downside, they're getting in a lot of cash,
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you know, in a chunk for it. They're kind of
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making sure that it's limited by arranging security and all that.
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great insight. Cut jobs, and.
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I'm guessing thank you, And I'm guessing it's also I'm
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guessing it's also because these events don't normally allow you
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to use your season pass, so it's a way to
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get a whole nother admission because the kids who are
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going to be most interested in it are the ones
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who are already season pass holders too, not spray Farm,
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for example, And it's a way to get an additional
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boost a cash from them.
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Okay, all right, so next, let's talk about what's going
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on over at Galaxy's Edge in Disneyland apparently. And so
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first I'm going to say that this I'm taking this
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story and some excerpts from Robert Niles at Theme Parkingsider,
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who I think broke the story for the most part,
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but he also did some excellent framing of this. I mean,
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as it's an excellent read, I'll put it in the
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in the show notes.
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This stuff is always really good.
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His stuff is so good.
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He's so good, really smart guy.
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giving up on its original concept for its Star Wars Land,
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which is a great lead because that's the essence of
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what's going on, and that's why I want to discuss
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it with Scott, because of Scott's background in storytelling specifically
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so so basically I'm just going to read from some
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excerpts here from Robert's piece. He says when Star Wars
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Galaxy Said debuted at Disneyland and then while Disney World's
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Disney Hollywood Studios in twenty nineteen, it represented a particular
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time and place in the Star Wars universe. Set on
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the planet of Batu, Galaxies Edge represented the First Order
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controlled Blackspire outpost with a Resistance camp on its outskirts.
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This placed the land timeline in the middle of the
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sequel trilogy, in the age of Resistance and First Order.
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That timeline meant that popular Star Wars characters from the
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original trilogy had no place in the Land, including Darth Vader,
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Han Solo, and the younger versions of Lu Skywalker and
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Princess Leah. Starting April twenty ninth, Disneyland Star Wars Galaxies
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Edge will expand its timeline, placing Blacksfire outposts within the
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original trilogy and the Galactic Civil War Darth Vader, lu Skywalker, Leya,
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and Han solo characters will roam the area, with Imperial
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Stormtroopers replacing the First Order Troopers who now walk in
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the area. Now here's where it gets complicated. So apparently
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the First Order cargo store, you know, all that stuff,
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is going to be rethmed, but the market place on
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the edge of Blackspire outposts is going to shift to
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the New republic Ish so that the Mandalorian and Grogu
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and Ahsoka people can still be in that area. And
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then another complication is that the sequel trilogy timeline will
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hold in the Resistance camp where Ray is and guess
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we'll see that. So it seems like they're going to
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morph it into being three different timelines. But Disland is
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my home park, and I know all the areas they're
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talking about, and I'm just in my mind, I'm like, yeah,
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but it's it's not like a clear delineation, you know,
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like it's pretty seamless, like when you're marketing, you're walking
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to the marketplace. There's not like a clear divisible line
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because it was meant to be one coherent land, right,
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where you're walking like five feet and you've traveled thirty years,
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you know, or whatever it is.
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Three hundred years.
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Yeah, sure, any timeline. So Scott's the expert. I want
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to get Scott's take on this. My only counter point
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is to this is just that, you know, what, these
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characters are really popular. I was even thinking that when
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I met conventions and Darth Vader is still walking around
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and the classic storm troops are still walking around, and
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I'm like, you know, the same thing with the Black
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and Star Cruiser, right, like I think or start whatever
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it was called the Hotel the failed thing.
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So I think I'd said this before.
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But my take on it is that Disney made this
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thing like too immersive by making it too much of
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the guest responsibility to entertain themselves, which is really not
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what people want at a theme park. And then also
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they made it hard, like you can't just show up
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in cosplay like you can do a convention with your
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Darth Vader outfit or whatever, so you can't actually like
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do the story that they want you to do. And
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then they didn't do any of the things they said
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they were gonna do in the first place. There's not
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like shows, there's not any It's like here, you're in Batuo,
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make up your own story. And so I kind of
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I kind of feel like, I mean, I know, I
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sort of feel like this is gonna end up being
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more popular just because these characters are popular and people
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like to see them. And I think it's just I
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don't know, but Scott, you're the storytelling extpert.
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You tell me what.
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Yeah, So let me start by saying, as an artist,
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I find it very disappointingly doing this. As a theme
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park professional, I am not the least bit surprised. And
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the first handwriting on the wall was the Shadows of Memory,
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a Skywalker saga, which was the quote unquote end of
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Night spectacle that would take place at Galaxy's Edge, which
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was filled with all the characters that we knew. I
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think this is this is another example. A similar example
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to this is what happened with with.
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Was it Avatar?
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I think it was Avatar at Disney because the ride
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was actually designed to be about a movie that hadn't
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come out yet and then got delayed in another three
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or four years, and so they were attempting to create
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something that was going to give the new generation quote
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unquote the new generation of Star Wars characters a place
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to live or a place to visit, and they chose
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to do a neutral enough location. I think this was
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the mentality behind it.
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I don't know.
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I wasn't involved with the creation of this project in
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any way, shape or form, but they they tried to
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pick a place, or it sounds like they tried to
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pick a place it was neutral enough that anyone within
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a certain bandwidth of timeframe could actually appear. But it did,
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in either intentionally or unintentionally, make it very very difficult
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from a storytelling or a thematic standpoint, to have the
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classic characters. Bottom line from what I'm seeing is the
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new characters didn't hit the way the classic characters have hit.
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You know, even they thought that, or I'm assuming that
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their intention was to give the the younger fans a
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place to see their characters, not the characters that their
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dads or their grandparents went to see when they were kids.
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So it's it's.
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Interesting to me that, you know, I'm I'm all about
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trying to stick with a story, and I'm all about
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trying to follow a story, but if the story is
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not compelling enough, it doesn't have long lasting legs.
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It's it's part of the reason that when you invest
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a huge amount of money into an attraction in a
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theme park that is based on a single film that
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isn't quite a classic yet, you're running a huge risk.
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And I think that's kind of what they've done here
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with Galaxy's Edge. And now they've realized their guests are
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telling them, we want Darth Vader, we want Han Solo,
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we you know, we want Princess Leah. But at the
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same time, the second tier, I think from my own
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personal my own personal opinion, the second tier of popular
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characters are Mandalorian and and Little Yoda. You know they
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so it, Yeah, Grogu, it's Little Yoda.
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Who are we kidding?
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But those so that's the second tier, and they have
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to find ways now because the films have kind of
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jumped around so much within the timeframe that you know,
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perhaps perhaps the answer would have been to create a
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loophole in time where you know, it's science fiction, you
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can do pretty much anything you want, but create a
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loophole in time where these characters can appear interact and
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then go back to their own, you know, timelines. I'm
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sure that the people who own all the Star Wars properties,
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you know, and the masters, the masters of the show
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book said no, you can't do that. But I think
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this is just a situation where the need to be
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able to see these characters, to be able to to
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your point, cause play these characters. More people will buy
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a Darth Vader T shirt than a you know, oh gosh,
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what's the what's the villain in the later films.
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That's the problem is that people don't even know, like.
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I don't, and I've seen the movies. I've seen all
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of them, enjoyed them.
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Yeah, they're not sticky.
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They didn't have the sticky they didn't have the sticky factor.
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And you know, you've got if I'm gonna if I'm
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going to go to a Star Wars experience, I'm not
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a huge Darth Vader fan, but I want to meet Chewy.
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I want to meet Chewbacca. I think that.
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Everybody still knows who Han Solo is, you know, because
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he came back as an old man, so you know,
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you've still got all of that going on. It's this
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is a situation where the reality had to supersede read
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the storytelling. There are times that as a creative you
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have to kill your darlings. There are times where the
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reality of the situation and the financial side of the
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situation will supersede the story. And I hate it when
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that happens, and I usually try to create a story
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that will encompass it all, kind of like my loophole
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in time suggestion. But I guess the real the real
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question is do the vast majority of people visiting this
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area understand that Mandalorian and Darth Vader are from different timelines?
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Yep?
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Do they even understand that?
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That's what I was The answer is no, that's what
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I was thinking.
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I literally was like, you know, to me, this is
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also very similar to what's going on with Universal right,
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where they have the Harry Potter, so much investment in
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Harry Potter and now it's spanning lots of different timelines,
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and you know, you have a.
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Epic universe, right. The Battle of the Ministry is time wocked.
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You know. Also, it's just it's the same messy.
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Sticky situations you're getting in with these really longgoing ips.
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But like I, yeah, I sort of I was like,
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I understand everything about the story, and I don't like disagree,
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but also I'm not sure.
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That most people really like care that much.
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I'm not even sure it's it's clear to most people
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now that they realize what timeline they're in, Like I
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because I think most people would be like they would
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know it if they were in the current timeline, as
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in like present day, like you know, as in we're
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in like wherever the last thing ended. I think that's
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what people would normally assume, but that's not what's actually happening.
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So I don't think that most people are really like
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aware that that it's even not in that timeline in
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the first part, and I think they just kind of
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want to hang out and see Star Wars stuff.
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Well, and you can make the comparison with what Universal
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did with the Potter franchise. The I think they handled
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it very well because if you're going to either Islands
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or Studios, those two, because they are connected by the
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Hogwarts express, those two are in the same timeline, They're
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in the same realm, the same world, and that world
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continues to have it, continues to be fresh, continues to
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bring in new audience members. I mean, they're they're in
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the process right now of releasing all of the books again,
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the audio books, but they're releasing them with full casts,
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so they're actually casting people. And I will say, Hugh
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Laurie is Dumbledore is really pretty cool. But the idea
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of it is they don't have to They know that
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that is that is cash money.
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They know that that is not going.
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To They're still gonna people are still going to wonder
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about green Goots because green Gots is mentioned pretty much
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every frickin' book. They're still gonna They're still gonna want
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to go to to to uh Hogsmead. They're still gonna
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want to go to you know, the the school that
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did to the whole the whole nine yards that's locked in.
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I originally was with you. I thought, oh, going down
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the Fantastic Beasts timeline is a little weird. But having
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experienced it, you've done it so well that I think
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I think they're going to I think there's still going
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to be a I think there's still going to be
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a draw for that area. I think where Disney went
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wrong is they tried to avoid committing, so they created
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something that doesn't really appear anywhere in the mythology and yeah.
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What I liked is specifically about the ministry thing is
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that you know, you see the papers, you see markers
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all around you that are like, this is where we
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are in the time, and so your your brain is
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triggered to be like, oh, here we are, like we're
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in this uh this time it's and I think that's
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the thing too.
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I think that's why a.
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Lot of guests are not aware when they go into
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the into the Star Wars land where you're like, well,
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there's not a lot of markers anywhere to signify the timeline.
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You had to like intuit it, which I know is
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they're part of it immersive. You know, you have to
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ask the cast members like what year it is or whatever,
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and it's.
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Like, well, I think most people don't do that well.
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And I think that also if you're going to Star Wars,
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you know, with almost and I may be speaking way
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out of turn here, but I think with pretty much anybody,
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if you say, who do you want to meet? We're
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going to go to Star Wars, a Star Wars theme land,
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who do you want to meet? And it's not going
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to be the residence of two you know, the whole
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idea behind the whole idea behind Galaxy's Edge. When it
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first opened, they were even comparing it to this is
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the unseen film, this is the movie that never was though,51200:27:01.200 --> 00:27:03.680
because it created But I can totally see why they51300:27:03.680 --> 00:27:05.960
would have thought that, because that way they can create51400:27:06.000 --> 00:27:09.440
a place where, depending on how clever their storytelling is,51500:27:09.799 --> 00:27:14.720
they can they can incorporate other characters from other films.51600:27:14.799 --> 00:27:16.720
And I think they were hoping that the.51700:27:16.799 --> 00:27:19.599
Characters, not just the films, because the films, the post51800:27:19.640 --> 00:27:22.119
will say the post Darth Vader films have been.51900:27:22.000 --> 00:27:24.680
Successful but not iconic.52000:27:25.240 --> 00:27:28.279
Yeah, so, and the characters certainly have not been iconic.52100:27:28.839 --> 00:27:30.559
I know that there are people who are going to52200:27:30.599 --> 00:27:33.200
probably leave horrible comments and saying, Scott, you don't know52300:27:33.240 --> 00:27:37.400
what you're talking about. But at least from my perspective,52400:27:37.440 --> 00:27:39.480
I think the iconic characters happened in the first three52500:27:39.480 --> 00:27:42.240
movies and then in the ones that kind of went52600:27:42.279 --> 00:27:48.160
back to that picking up that story, so that there's52700:27:48.200 --> 00:27:51.319
two generations that have seen new films with those same52800:27:51.400 --> 00:27:54.039
characters or that reference those same characters.52900:27:55.160 --> 00:27:57.079
We have some one last story. I'm going to try53000:27:57.119 --> 00:27:59.440
and get in here really quick before that time. So53100:28:00.720 --> 00:28:04.400
Universal Studios Japan uh, made an announcement this week. They're53200:28:04.400 --> 00:28:07.400
going to deliver immersive Pokemon experiences for fans. And the53300:28:07.480 --> 00:28:10.319
thing that this why this kind of went all around53400:28:10.680 --> 00:28:13.559
the theme park circuit in our area is that they53500:28:13.839 --> 00:28:17.680
Universal did mention in their corporate presentation about this that53600:28:17.720 --> 00:28:19.680
there it's going to be a larger partnership.53700:28:19.680 --> 00:28:21.240
They're going to roll this out to all of their53800:28:21.240 --> 00:28:26.920
properties worldwide. Uh what the this is, we don't know. Uh,53900:28:27.000 --> 00:28:28.920
it's very right.54000:28:30.160 --> 00:28:32.640
Yeah, so they're going to pilot whatever this is. They54100:28:32.640 --> 00:28:35.359
haven't said what it is. It's going to be like54200:28:36.960 --> 00:28:40.519
an immersive experience. And there there was one outlet in54300:28:42.160 --> 00:28:45.799
they got the original Japanese announcement and they said that54400:28:45.880 --> 00:28:47.920
it's going to be built around an ultra real experience54500:28:48.000 --> 00:28:51.279
that stimulates all five senses. So we don't know what54600:28:51.319 --> 00:28:53.440
it is, but we know there's a bigger partnership in54700:28:53.599 --> 00:28:56.920
the works with Pokemon that's going to start at USJ54800:28:57.079 --> 00:28:59.279
and then it will go to the other properties after that.54900:28:59.599 --> 00:29:02.759
I'm just say this is really smart. As usual, Pokemon55000:29:02.799 --> 00:29:05.400
is still a huge thing. There's Pokemon stuff everywhere. There's55100:29:05.400 --> 00:29:07.920
a new Pokemon theme park opening in Japan. Japan's a55200:29:07.960 --> 00:29:10.519
good place to test it. It'll be tricky to see55300:29:10.559 --> 00:29:13.519
about porting it elsewhere because the fan base is not55400:29:13.599 --> 00:29:16.519
quite as rabid in other countries than it is in Japan.55500:29:16.920 --> 00:29:20.359
But having been to usj and seeing the Pokemon stuff there,55600:29:20.359 --> 00:29:21.799
I can tell you it's probably not going to be55700:29:21.839 --> 00:29:24.240
a arrive. It's probably going to be like a parade55800:29:24.279 --> 00:29:28.640
inclusion or a character like a dinner, because when I55900:29:28.680 --> 00:29:31.200
went there, they had the Pokemon Cafe where you could56000:29:31.279 --> 00:29:33.640
order the themed meal, the Pokemon the meal, which is56100:29:33.680 --> 00:29:35.799
really cute. They had the little meet and greets, they56200:29:35.799 --> 00:29:38.640
had the dance party, they had the Pokemon Live show56300:29:38.759 --> 00:29:41.640
with the DJ Gengar, they had the water show, they56400:29:41.680 --> 00:29:44.079
had the parade like it's like everywhere. So I think56500:29:44.279 --> 00:29:47.200
there's plenty of live entertainment and food elements that I56600:29:47.240 --> 00:29:50.920
think they could wrap into some a fun experience for people.56700:29:51.319 --> 00:29:53.119
I don't think it is going to be a ride.56800:29:53.119 --> 00:29:55.279
I think it's going to be something like they're saying56900:29:55.319 --> 00:29:58.920
that's a I could see like a cafe, Pokemon cafe57000:29:59.279 --> 00:30:01.559
with a character, a greet and something like that.57100:30:02.000 --> 00:30:04.240
Or it could be something as simple as Pokemon go57200:30:04.319 --> 00:30:07.680
on steroids. You know, it should be something that exists57300:30:07.720 --> 00:30:10.160
throughout the entire an entire area, or entire land, or57400:30:10.160 --> 00:30:14.079
an entire park. But speaking of entirety, this is our57500:30:14.119 --> 00:30:17.079
show in its entirety because we're out of time. Guys,57600:30:17.119 --> 00:30:22.079
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