Six Flags Swaps Coasters for Toons

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Okay, from our studios in Los Angeles and Tampa. This

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is green Tag Theme Park and thirty. I'm Philip and

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I'm joined as always with my co host Scott Swinson

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of Scott Swinson Creative Development.

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On green Tag, we look.

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At the top news each week and in discuss why

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it's important to industry professionals. We try and ask questions

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and spark debate on our YouTube specifically where everyone is

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continuing to comment, which we are very grateful for. And

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this week we will discuss a little bit of the

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six Flags. We always have to give you all the

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six Flags updates. We got to do the six Flags updates.

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What's going on?

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Everybody loves six Flags updates well, and if you think

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about it, when it comes to the industry, they are

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the biggest player now, the biggest well they're they're the

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ones that are in the most unique position. I mean

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they're not they've been shaken up and it's interesting to

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see how they're handling it.

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Yep.

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So we'll discuss that, and then we're going to talk

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a little bit about some fun Christmas events that we

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picked out for happening all over the world that we

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thought was cool because it is our Christmas show, which

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I forgot about.

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Yes, that's why I'm decked out in my in my

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Christmas shirt and I'm out here in this frigid little

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Christmas wonderland forest here in Tampa.

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I completely forgot this.

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I don't know it's about. Well, but that's because Philip,

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you just took your Christmas tree down last week, so

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you know it's true. It's not even up.

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Yeah, I got o. We're gonna get there.

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Okay, So let's recap some of the big theme part

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of the sorry the big six Flags news from this

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past week. I'm sure everyone's heard, but of course that

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the Magic Mountain. There's some a lot of stuff happening

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at Magic Mountain. They're not going to get the opening

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of the big new first fits Kind roller coaster in

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twenty twenty six. That's going to be pushed at twenty

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twenty seven. Instead, they're getting a refreshed kids area.

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So so, uh, this is interesting.

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So yeah, the first fits Kind roller coaster is being

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pushed to twenty twenty seven. And what they told KTLA

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is that as we continue to evaluate our construction project,

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we've realized that the nature of this attraction means that

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it will take a bit longer to complete than originally anticipated.

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To ensure the coaster meets are high standards of innovation,

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thrills and safety that you expect and deserve, we have

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revised the timeline to twenty twenty seven.

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So the coaster was part.

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Of the one billion dollar chain wide investment by six

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Flags and it's the the Coma Thrill Glide, a suspended

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motorbike coaster that's not yet seen in North America, and.

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The kids area.

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So basically this is a little This one was interesting

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just because of the context of the recent things. But

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what they're doing is they're basically revamping the Bugs Bunny

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area to a Looney Tunes land, which is going to

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debut in summer of next year, and it's going to

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feature four areas anchored by Bugs Bunny, Roadrunner, Taz, and

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Daffy Duck. And it's going to include upgraded storytelling on

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existing rye it's new theming, expanded seating, selfie spots, where

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fresh dying locations, and additional green space. It's gonna the

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construction will begin right after their current winter festival there

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and everything else like the park will be open. It's

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just that one area it's going to be doing. In

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a press release, the park said each area will have

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its own color palette, fauna, landscaping, graphics, hardscaping and railings, signage,

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and more distinct experiences in that area. And the context

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is just interesting here because last episode we've just talked

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about how the Warner Brothers is up for sale and

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will Netflix buy it and what's going to happen or whatnot.

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And of course Looney Tunes is part of the Warner

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Brothers ip that they do do lease out, so it's.

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Interesting they're choosing to continue.

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Like so it's like business as usual basically, which is

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kind of what we talked about anyway last week that

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it was going to just be business as usual. So uh,

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And in case anyone is wondering, which people have already

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commented in our last episode about this, since last week,

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the Warner Brothers shareholders have issued a statement saying that

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they recommend Netflix instead of Paramount as the purchaser because

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mostly I think because they're saying the funding might not

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be as secure as the Netflix one. So so just

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interesting that this is all kind of happening. But we

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said it would take years anyway, because it will take

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years if it happens well.

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And to me, it's it's it's interesting, but it's also

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kind of doubling down because you know, they now have

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a much if this is after this is completed, they

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will have a much stronger anchor to be able to say,

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you know, we've invested in in this, this and this upgrade.

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So now that the representation of your brand, whether Netflix

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bies it or not, which I think they will, but

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we've you know, we've been reinvesting and supporting your brand.

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So please keep working with us, and please continue to

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allow us to lease the rights, at least in this

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format at of experience. So I think that that does

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not surprise me a whole lot. I I you know,

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if if for some reason, whoever buys Warner Brothers decides

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we're gonna pull all the the Looney Tunes, all the

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bugs Bunny rights, that's gonna take years and years to

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do because there's you know, there's some pretty significant investments

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around the world using those ips, and uh, they're they're

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not gonna they're not gonna go away overnight. But what

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I think is most interesting is this is kind of

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echoing what we've been sort of suggesting in the show

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all along, and that is the standard standard operating procedure.

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Procedure for large theme parks is changing. It used to

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be that the only way you could do anything that

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would make people want to come to your park is

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to spend a huge investment on a new coaster, especially

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a six Flags park that was that's been their bread

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and butter. You know, they invest in a coaster, they

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get a bump for three years, they pay off the

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coaster for five years to seven years, and it just

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it's not making sense anymore on paper. What is making sense, however,

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is providing more and more opportunities for families to come

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and and do stuff together. That is, That is the

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new trend. That is the new trend. People who are

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seeking thrills aren't going to aren't going to theme parks

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as much. They're going to places that have real thrills.

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You know, they're going whitewater rafting, they're going they're going

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bungee jumping, they're doing you know, they're doing all that stuff.

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So I'm not going to say that roller coasters are

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going to go away. You know, everybody, whenever I say

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things on the show, people always like to make it

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very black and white. That No, Scott doesn't know what

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he's talking about, because roller coasters aren't going anywhere. I'm

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not saying roller coasters are going away. What I'm saying

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is parks are recognizing that the return on investment is

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there are other options other than big pieces of steel

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that quite often will have a more or well a

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more positive return on investment, and especially things that involve

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family and an ip. So I think that this is. Yes,

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I'm sure they didn't have the money. I mean, let's

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let's address the elephant in the room, or at least didn't,

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let me put it this way, even if they had it,

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didn't want to spend it for fear that, you know,

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other things may happen down the road, or they want

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to make sure that the stockholders don't just start abandoning

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them so that they can maintain some of their their residuals,

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their stock residuals. So there's that. But I also think that,

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like I said, the way theme parks are working, I

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love the fact that they now include includes many selfie experiences. Yep,

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that was never a space.

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Yeah green space and self experiences are like new trends.

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Yeah, yeah, very new, well not very new, but there

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they are trends that are returning, trends that are appealing

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to appealing to their guests. So to me, it's just

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kind of a I don't want to use the term

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right sizing, but I guess that's what it is. It's

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looking at at what is our what it's going to

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be our return on investment? And you know, will will

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the new updated family friendly area drive as much attendance

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as a new roller coaster in the first year? Maybe not,

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but it also won't cost as much.

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Yeah, well, I was wondering do you think I guess

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I was wondering how much do you think the cost

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is playing factor in it? And do you think I mean,

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I was thinking about this from a manufacturing standpoint, is like,

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is there maybe are they thinking that the terroriffs might

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go away? I mean, I don't know how how far

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it is in construction. I mean, I have no idea.

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I don't know if it's already if everything's already in

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this country and they're just like assembling it, and in

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which case it wouldn't matter. But maybe you're people are thinking, well,

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you know, it's a terrafs wind their way to the

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Supreme Court and as all that is happening, maybe the

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terrace will go away, and then it would I mean,

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if this if twenty percent twenty percent cheaper roller coaster

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is a.

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Lot Yeah, yeah, Well, and they may also be thinking,

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you know, let's let's let's not muddy the waters when

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you know for twenty six everything six Flags at least

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from a look how good we are is going to

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be focused in Saudi. You know that's true, So let's

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not muddy the waters. Let's let's not compete with ourselves.

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I don't know, there's there could be a lot of

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different reasons, quite honestly.

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was I'd forgot about the Saudi and goinghea that it's interesting.

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But I was also thinking, there's really nothing opening in

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twenty like there's very few like big things opening in

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twenty twenty six in America, and I'm wondering, if I

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guess I was thinking a bit, is this them trying

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to not just the cost and all that stuff, but

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also they're trying to be more competitive in twenty seven

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when you have larger, other, larger competition happening, where it's

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like they want to be a little bit more competitive,

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and like really nothing's happening in twenty six.

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So yeah, that's very possible because I mean, let's face it,

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you know, theme parks, theme park insider, people who work

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in theme parks know when other theme parks are planning

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to open things, yes, long before it's announced. So yeah,

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that's very possible. That's very possible. And you know, who knows.

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It could be a combination of all these things. It

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could be a combination of all And I would throw

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even another possibility into the hat, and that is it's

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an attempt to revitalize and slightly redirect what is the

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perceived audience for a six Flags park yep, because you know,

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we've both said Six Flags parks are and this is

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a gross overstatement, but many of the six Flags parks

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have the reputation of being blacktop and roller coasters and

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that's about it. Yeah, blacktop and thrill rides. So if

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they're going to do a deep dive in an investment

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and a strong media push for a revised, updated family area,

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that that may be another attempt to sort of reposition

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their their demographic.

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The only other thing I thought was interesting is that

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they they didn't choose to do this with Peanuts, right,

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A lot of people were wondering.

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It's like, well, where they gonna where the Six Flags

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Park's going to build areas with the Peanuts Now that

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it's they now they can now it's it's one chain.

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And also just another side noted that Sony just purchased

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a majority of the stock in Peanuts and so it's

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like they're most most of the owners of Peanuts now.

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So it's Sony.

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So it's that's that's been happening, you know, in this

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side thing. But it yeah, so I don't know. To me,

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I I I hear a lot of people talking about that,

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and I'm like, well, like it's kind of more for diversity,

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I think, is how I would say it. It's like

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they want to you know, having multiple eyps makes you

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more diverse, and that way they I don't know, I mean.

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To me, it's competing iyps. I don't know whether if

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it were, if it were my choice, I would look

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at what what eyps are are resonating strongest with the

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audience that I want and and dive in wholeheartedly with

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those And like I said, I I think it's just

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to reinforce the anchor of the Warner Brothers characters, so

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that when negotiations come up in the future with the

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new sale. I mean, I still think that the the

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the impending sale of Warner Brothers has something to do

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with their decision. I can't. I have no insider information,

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nor have I ever dealt with that particular ip. So

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it's one of those I don't know, but I think

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to me, it kind of sounds like we're just gonna

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really dig our heels in tight. We're gonna put our

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anchors deep into the bottom of the ocean and say,

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look look at our great investment. Well, you can't take

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this away from us. Now, let's negotiate. I don't know.

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Yeah, interesting, some very quick hits too, just we didn't

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talk about this last time, But it's not that. But

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I think the last round up of six Flags news

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is that they've streamlined all of their apps and website together,

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which they did a few weeks ago, but we didn't

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mention it because we were.

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Just our next six Flags updates.

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But yeah, it's interesting because I, you know, I have

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the subscription to it, and so previously I had like

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the Notts app, and so now is all like one app,

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no matter what six Flags park you're a part of,

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and it's like one website and everything is like combined.

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So I don't know, people are freaking out about it.

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I think that that step was necessary.

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I'm let's go back. It's not the first time six

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Flags has done that either. When six Flags you know

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in there, when six Flags started purchasing up every mom

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and pop park they could find, and we'll call it

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the Geaga Lake syndrome, when they when they basically purchased

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everything they could find, they put everything under one umbrella,

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one website, and then broke it back up again. But

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in this particular case, like I said, we have to

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stop thinking about it as this is a half and

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half company. It's not it's a new company. It's not

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six Flags, it's it's not Cedar Fair. It is six

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Flags now yep. And I think that that helps with

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that narrative more absolutely.

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The new app, the unified app, it has all of

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your rewards in it and all that especially for me,

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just for me, because I write next to six Slacks

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like I'm fifteen minutes away from Magic Mountain and then

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I can drive down to Knots right, and so especially

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for people in this region.

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I think it's.

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Very different, but better because then it kind of reinforces

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that it's one thing.

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So I know this isn't in our show notes. I

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know we hadn't discussed this, But because the two prox

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parks are in such close proximity, do you see there's

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any possibility of one of them closing their doors?

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I don't know.

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I mean everybody here is asking that, like everybody in

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Sokyl is wondering that. And that's kind of what I thought.

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Why it was interesting that they were putting the Loan

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Tunes thing there because Knats has the Peanuts and they

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just redid the camp Snoopy, so they I mean, they

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just renovated that, and so now this move would kind

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of make you believe that they're gonna plan to keep

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both parks operational with different vibes, even different kids eyps,

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with new renovated areas, right, So I think that's boating

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well for all of that, it's just interesting because you're like, well,

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maybe they're thinking of pushing both more.

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Into the more family demographic, just because.

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I think, I don't know, God, I'm going to get

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in so much trouble for this with the theme park

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people here locally, but like the way I feel, like

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the way I think about the SoCal environment is you're like,

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Disney is still the best. I'm sorry, especially here because

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the Universal Hollywood is very small, and Universal Hollywood is

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where you go for the studio tour and for those

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things that you can't get other places, but they have

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all to do with Hollywood, right, It's so it's such

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a Hollywood park, okay. And then Disney is just the best,

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it's the largest, but also it's just it's the original.

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It's the thing, right, It's the thing. And then six

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Flags kind of has that vibe of being like the

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park in the suburbs that is like where tweens hang

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out until they are old enough where they have enough

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money to go to or Universal, or they move out

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of the city because like it's in the suburbs, right,

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nobody comes up here. Okay, I don't even know why

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I'm here, but like it's one of those where you

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know where like when you get old enough, you leave

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and you move into the city. So you're either going

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to move closer to Universal and then you go to Universal,

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or you move down to the w A Park area

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and you're gonna go to Knots or Disney. So this

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is like the park that you're at when you're in

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school and when you're living with your parents, Like, this

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is the park that you're at, I think not, I

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mean people do travel to it, but like not not,

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I I mean again, because then the calculus is like,

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why don't we just go to k Notts?

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Right?

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It depends on where you are in the uh, you

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know where you live, but it's only an hour apart,

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and so it's really like, you know, I think most

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people will choose nos because it has a more robust

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entertainment offering, and they're still so it is. This is

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hard because I think the only time I've ever heard

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people that live south that means live past the city,

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the only time I've ever heard those people be like,

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I'm going to go to six Flags. It's for two things.

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One is fright fast, and one is they want to

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go to a coaster mm hmm. But then the people

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that everyone that lives around it are families because it's

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the suburbs, and so you're so it's it's a weird

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dynamic because you're like, oh, this is interesting, and then

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Knots is like people love Nots because it's the cheap Disney,

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because it it's the only park I would argue, maybe

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not in their chain, but it's the they do such

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a good job with their entertainment, with what they have.

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Well, it was the outlier in the Cedar Fair parks too.

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It's always been the outlier.

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So it's it's going to be the outlier in the

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in the current six flags as well.

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Like their Mary Farm, it might be the only time

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I go. I only I only go to Knots like

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four times. And it's like Boys and Berry Festival, you know,

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Scary Farm, Married Mary and there's. You go to the

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main things just because they do such great things, but you.

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Go to the seasons festivals. You go to the seasonal festivals.

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You don't go to the core product of the park. Well,

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and the reason I'm asking is, I'm just wondering if

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this decision not to do a giant coaster is kicking

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the ball down the street a little bit, waiting to

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see do we need to have both parks or do

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they need to have both parks. That's what made me,

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That's what prompted the question, because I really, you know,

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you live there. I don't so I don't know what

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the local mentality is, but yeah, it's interesting. It's going

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to be interesting to see how this continues to play out.

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And of course we'll be reporting on it from now

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until the cows come home because it is the biggest

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mover and shaker really when it comes to the big

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theme park industries. They're out there. So we'll see, we'll

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see what happens.

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Well, yes, okay, it's Christmas.

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So oh okay.

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We want to talk about two stories.

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Nothing Christmas around me other than my backdrop and my shirt.

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I was looking for something that would be like fun

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and I could like jingle bells or anything. But everything's

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scary and Halloween.

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Oh I have this?

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Doesn't help me off this plant? Oh there you go.

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Okay, I'll put this here. So we have a little

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bit of Christmas five okay, So two stories from just

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interesting things.

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So the.

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So, okay, there's a place I've always wanted to go

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in this time of year, which is the Harbin Ice

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Snow World in China. And I think I got became

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aware of these artists because the Gaylord Resorts do the

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ice experience and you know, I'm sure our listeners have

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seen it or heard of it because they're in all

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the major Gaylord properties, and Nico there has really done

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an excellent job of expanding all of the entertainment offerings

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at those resorts. But the thing with those ice experience this,

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as you know, is that they're giant ice sculptures that

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you walk through in their ips, right, So you're going

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through like the Polar Express and you see the full

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size replica of the Express out of ice.

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It's crazy.

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All those artists are from China, are from Harbin because

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that's where like the world's largest snow world is is.

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And it's just it's their thing. It's this enormous thing,

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and I've always wanted to go to it because it

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looks so great. So it's just opened for this year

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and it's five hundred and twenty one meter eye slides,

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intricate ice sculptures, and other attractions. The park spans one

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point two million square meters and has introduced new performances

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and amenities, generating substantial winter revenue. So last year this

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park like this, like it's basically a theme park made

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device right, and last year it like set records for

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being like one of the most visited destinations, and so

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it just reopened for this year. It looks like it's

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even bigger and crazier, and I'm like, I'm really interest

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to see what the numbers are going to be, because

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I am betting this is gonna end up rivaling year

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round theme parks in terms of attendance.

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Well, I mean, first of all, it's huge. Secondly easy, Yeah,

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it's it's gigetic, and you see these photos and you

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see maps, and you go, that couldn't possibly be. That

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couldn't possibly be what I think it is.

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But like Native, it's like a city made of ices.

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Easy. No, I know, but I think that part of

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it is. I think you're right. I think it's part

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of the reason that it does so incredibly well. Is

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number one, it is unique there, you know, it's it's

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unlike anything else of this magnitude. And secondly, it has

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a fuse. It has a beginning, it has an end,

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and not because it cannot be extended, you know, extended

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due to popular demand. Except the weather's changing and our

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eye slides are now four hundred and eighty meters, you know,

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it's it's not five twenty one anymore. They're now down

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to four eighty and half the stairs are gone, so

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good luck. So yeah, I think that it is. I'm

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with you. I think this looks like something that would

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be so much fun and so unique and uh, you

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know it's if any of you who are listeners have

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actually been to this, uh, please let us know send photos,

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because I would love to see what this looks like.

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I mean from from a guest perspective. You know, I'm

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to the point now where I love seeing promotional material,

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but I really want to see it from a guest

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perspective to see if it's as cool as it appears

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to be.

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And it's the only reason going to the ice experiences

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at the gayal Or Resorts made me want to see

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this more because you know, then when you go and

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you walk through those, you're like, oh my gosh, like

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this is crazy that these are these sculptures are made

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of eyes and you know, and then you just imagine

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it being a whole theme park of it, and it's

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crazy because you know, I don't know, you don't think

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it's going to work, and then you see it in person,

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You're like, oh my god, this is this works and

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then you uh slide down the giant ice slides, which

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I believe.

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The poems always has one and it's crazy.

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Yeah. The Gaylord. The Gaylord experiences are are sort of

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the the to me, it reminds me of sort of

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the of the the touring promotional show for the actual

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park in China.

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Yep, you know it's uh, it's if you're right, that's right.

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Yeah, and if you and and I don't mean that

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to be a dig on on any of the on

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Gaylord's ice at all. I think it's amazing. I go

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every year they've and they've continued to add and expand

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to it. It really is. It's it's truly breathtaking. So

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if you have the if you don't have the opportunity

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to go to China, at least go to Gaylord and

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see what some of these great artisans can create and

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some of the fun in many in most cases I

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will say westernized ips that they can can bring to life.

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And of course everyone everyone that they do because it's

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of course Christmas. Uh, they do and I'm not particularly religious,

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but they do an ice major scene. They do an

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ice crash that has no color to it. It's just

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ice and light and it is it's all inspiring. It's

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really beautiful. So so just imagining that times a gazillion

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makes the park sound like the one in China sound

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like it would be just way too much fun, way

482
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too much fun and something.

483
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The story, which also seems pretty fun, is from Alton

484
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Towers in the UK and they're offering a scent to

485
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sleepover package. And this is so this is a festive

486
00:25:35.960 --> 00:25:39.799
experience for families, featuring activities such as meeting Santa, exploring

487
00:25:39.839 --> 00:25:42.880
the Seabe's land, and enjoying a themed hotel stay in

488
00:25:42.920 --> 00:25:46.079
case of rainy whether the event provides indoor attractions and entertainment.

489
00:25:46.400 --> 00:25:49.480
The Arctic Explorer room and a Christmas dinner bathet are

490
00:25:49.519 --> 00:25:54.000
highlights of the experience. So this isn't like this is

491
00:25:54.039 --> 00:25:56.319
all new things. But what I like about this is

492
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that they are packaging everything into like a whole experience

493
00:25:59.599 --> 00:26:03.119
and so encourage you to do a stay, and it

494
00:26:03.200 --> 00:26:05.759
then allows them to put in, you know, all these

495
00:26:06.000 --> 00:26:08.599
elements together, Like you get the themed room, you get

496
00:26:08.599 --> 00:26:11.480
the buffet, you get the Santa experience, you get to

497
00:26:11.599 --> 00:26:13.640
enjoy the park. I mean, you get this whole thing

498
00:26:13.720 --> 00:26:16.240
that's kind of like wrapped into Christmas package, which I

499
00:26:16.279 --> 00:26:20.640
think is just that it's interesting because you know, we

500
00:26:20.720 --> 00:26:24.039
see this happen with this again, none of this is new,

501
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but I feel like I don't really see it happen

502
00:26:26.200 --> 00:26:29.559
that much for Christmas, and I think that that's what

503
00:26:29.640 --> 00:26:30.559
makes this interesting to me.

504
00:26:31.400 --> 00:26:36.880
I love the fact that it's a a family sleepover experience.

505
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You know, it's so cool. It looks like it would

506
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be just so much fun. Just some of the images

507
00:26:41.880 --> 00:26:46.720
and the descriptions. You're you know, we we bandy about

508
00:26:46.720 --> 00:26:53.759
the idea of immersiveness and the UK has done this

509
00:26:54.079 --> 00:26:56.880
in several other areas as well. You know, there's the

510
00:26:57.000 --> 00:27:01.000
overnight Halloween experiences, there's the so there's a lot of

511
00:27:01.039 --> 00:27:04.279
these sort of more camp grounding things. This is not51200:27:04.319 --> 00:27:08.079



camp grounding, but just the idea of it's all all51300:27:08.119 --> 00:27:10.799



Santa all the time. You know, you are, you're making51400:27:10.839 --> 00:27:14.200



the commitment as a family to go and experience Christmas51500:27:15.079 --> 00:27:18.240



at Alton Towers. You're gonna go see Santa, You're gonna51600:27:18.279 --> 00:27:21.839



have your Christmas dinner. But fet this is like everything51700:27:22.359 --> 00:27:25.599



everything a child would want for Christmas all rolled into51800:27:25.599 --> 00:27:26.680



one big experience.51900:27:27.200 --> 00:27:27.440



Yep.52000:27:27.720 --> 00:27:29.720



And the fact that it's not we have to get52100:27:29.759 --> 00:27:31.720



up in the morning and hurry over there and get52200:27:31.759 --> 00:27:33.200



ready and wait and line and park the car and52300:27:33.240 --> 00:27:35.079



blah blah blah, blah blah. The fact that it's an52400:27:35.119 --> 00:27:37.079



overnight's stay kind of goes back to the way the52500:27:37.119 --> 00:27:39.240



only way I will enjoy Disney anymore, and that is52600:27:39.279 --> 00:27:43.839



to actually stay on property, because again, I don't like52700:27:43.960 --> 00:27:46.440



the hassle of getting in, but if you make it52800:27:46.480 --> 00:27:49.400



an overnight experience, that hassle all just goes away and52900:27:50.000 --> 00:27:52.640



you do your stand asleepover. So yeah, I think this53000:27:52.680 --> 00:27:54.559



is really fun. I'm not sure it would I'm not53100:27:54.599 --> 00:27:57.720



sure how well it would play in the US. I53200:27:57.759 --> 00:28:00.799



was thinking that I don't I don't know that. I53300:28:00.839 --> 00:28:03.680



do know that a lot of people, you know, especially53400:28:03.680 --> 00:28:06.559



here in Florida, you have to there was a time53500:28:06.640 --> 00:28:08.599



and my numbers are old, but there was a time53600:28:08.640 --> 00:28:13.440



where if you wanted to book one of the hotels53700:28:13.960 --> 00:28:16.440



during the during the holiday season between Christmas and New53800:28:16.480 --> 00:28:19.359



Year's you usually had to book it about two years53900:28:19.400 --> 00:28:23.039



in advance, and they at one point in time they54000:28:23.079 --> 00:28:25.160



actually had a minimum amount stay you had to stay54100:28:25.160 --> 00:28:27.720



at least I think it was four days. That's crazy,54200:28:28.039 --> 00:28:32.400



So uh, yeah, it was because again, so many families54300:28:33.920 --> 00:28:36.839



are are willing to say, let's you know, let's not54400:28:37.000 --> 00:28:41.279



have a traditional Christmas. Let's have our Christmas at Disney.54500:28:41.680 --> 00:28:46.000



Let's have our Christmas with our families, because again it54600:28:46.200 --> 00:28:50.039



is Disney does Christmas well, and quite honestly, in my opinion,54700:28:50.119 --> 00:28:54.440



some of the best applications of Christmas on Disney property54800:28:54.440 --> 00:28:57.640



happened in the hotels anyway, So I mean here here54900:28:57.680 --> 00:29:00.319



in Florida, they even, you know, all of the the55000:29:00.359 --> 00:29:05.519



confectionery chefs have a competition to do displays that aren't,55100:29:05.920 --> 00:29:08.519



you know, super high end. It's not the gigantic rides55200:29:08.559 --> 00:29:12.839



and the attractions, but they're magical and they capture the55300:29:13.039 --> 00:29:16.559



essence of Christmas in a in a really amazing way.55400:29:16.880 --> 00:29:20.200



So it sounds like Alton Towers is doing their version55500:29:20.240 --> 00:29:23.400



of that in a sleepover experience. And we hope that55600:29:23.880 --> 00:29:25.839



you know, all of you who are are listening or55700:29:25.880 --> 00:29:28.079



watching the show, we hope that you capture your own55800:29:28.119 --> 00:29:31.440



holiday experiences this year. And if you are, if you55900:29:31.440 --> 00:29:34.519



are celebrating, hanik, I think we're almost that's just about over,56000:29:35.079 --> 00:29:37.720



and Christmas is around the corner, and of course New56100:29:37.759 --> 00:29:41.400



Year's is coming up closely behind that. So thank you56200:29:41.480 --> 00:29:43.240



all so much for spending yet another year with us.56300:29:43.400 --> 00:29:46.200



We hope your holiday season continues to be wonderful, and56400:29:47.400 --> 00:29:49.759



hopefully you'll find a little bit of your own Christmas56500:29:49.799 --> 00:29:51.759



magic in the in the holiday season.56600:29:52.559 --> 00:29:55.440



So I'm going to add also at the end that56700:29:55.720 --> 00:29:57.680



we are going to get we're getting pretty close to56800:29:57.720 --> 00:30:00.440



doing our New Year's episode as well. So or any56900:30:00.519 --> 00:30:03.240



topics or questions that you want to ask us, this57000:30:03.279 --> 00:30:06.480



is the time. If anything you want to ask that57100:30:06.480 --> 00:30:07.920



you want us talk about on the show, this is57200:30:07.960 --> 00:30:08.319



the time.57300:30:08.640 --> 00:30:09.160



Put it in there.57400:30:09.200 --> 00:30:10.559



I should have said this at the beginning of the show,57500:30:10.599 --> 00:30:13.559



but we're saying it now. So put in your questions57600:30:13.759 --> 00:30:15.920



and also please subscribe.57700:30:17.599 --> 00:30:20.759



We couldn't we couldn't have just a heartfelt holiday ending.57800:30:20.799 --> 00:30:22.640



We just had to get in the commercial.57900:30:22.720 --> 00:30:24.720



Okay, they probably won't listen to this part anyway. They58000:30:24.799 --> 00:30:25.720



probably stopped listening.58100:30:25.839 --> 00:30:28.039



That's true. I started. It's like, oh, look, Scott's wrapping58200:30:28.039 --> 00:30:29.039



it up, he's getting mushy.58300:30:29.319 --> 00:30:31.200



I'll yes, and then they just turn off. Yeah, that's58400:30:31.200 --> 00:30:31.880



where no one listens.58500:30:32.079 --> 00:30:34.279



Well, if you're still listening, If you're still listening, you58600:30:34.319 --> 00:30:39.160



deserve this. Merry Christmas, Happy Honkkah, Happy Kwanza, happy Solstice,58700:30:39.400 --> 00:30:43.839



happy Winter. Holidays and we will see you next week.